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Maraya1969
(22,441 posts)that the initial vote; kind of like the 2016 presidential vote here was a result of Russian interference.
They just keep fighting over and over it and getting nothing done; including a bunch of stuff that probably is very important for their country. It looks like an endless loop from an old computer.
Polybius
(15,239 posts)Has it ever happened before? Im torn on this one. If they voted No, I certainly wouldnt want another referendum.
Mariana
(14,849 posts)That one was essentially, "Leave or stay". Very vague. A new one could be much more specific, like "The current agreement, or stay". That's a very different question.
I thought it was extremely hypocritical of PM May to refuse a second referendum, saying "The people have spoken" and then put her shitty deal up for vote in Parliament over and over again, trying to get them to pass it.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,154 posts)so he won't do anything to make that possible.
2) The Leader of the Opposition is not that fussed whether we leave or remain, so has not been trying to get people asking for a new referendum
3) Although it appears Remain would probably win a new referendum, it's not certain
4) The Leavers are more fanatical about it, so their vote is probably more resilient, and a new vote would piss many people off who wouldn't bother to vote again, or would vote against the side that scheduled a new referendum
5) Many people don't want Corbyn as a new PM, so it's far from clear that a general election (which, since the Tories are adamant there shouldn't be a new referendum, is needed) would get a viable coalition headed by Corbyn.
If we manage to force Johnson to obtain an extension, it is possible that the right wing vote will split enough that a pro-Remain coalition could win a general election, even with the promise of inflicting another referendum on the voters, and that Leave could win that. That would then enable us to stay in the EU. But don't think that would mean the end of the loop; that would set us back at the 2009 or so position - a centre-left government, with a right wing that thinks if it unites behind 'leave the EU' could win both elections and a referendum on that.
The relationship with the EU will be the central controversy of British politics whatever happens for at least the next 5 years, and probably 10.
Talitha
(6,479 posts)They can vote as they originally did, or change their minds - as more educated voters.
The original Brexit vote was in June 2016, and ours was in November. After the smoke cleared, I seem to recall reading/hearing that Brits began to suspect Russia of influencing their Brexit vote after learning what the Russians did to us. And didn't the Russians also meddle in someone else's elections too? Maybe France?
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