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struggle4progress

(118,201 posts)
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 05:22 PM Sep 2019

Air Force says crew at Trump resort 'not unusual'

By Ryan Browne and Kevin Bohn, CNN
Updated 3:17 PM ET, Sun September 8, 2019

Washington (CNN) The crew of a US Air Force C-17 stayed at President Donald Trump's golf resort in Turnberry, Scotland, during a March refueling stop en route to Kuwait, the Air Force acknowledged, again raising ethics questions about government use of the President's private entities.

The Air Force, which said in a statement it was reviewing the trip records, said the stop was "not unusual." But it's another example of Trump's company earning money from taxpayer dollars, which has led some government watchdogs to argue the arrangement breaches ethical norms and potentially violates a clause of the US Constitution.

"As our air crews serve on these international airlift missions, they follow strict guidelines on contracting for hotel accommodations and all expenditures of taxpayer dollars," Air Force Brig. Gen. Ed Thomas said in a statement. "In this case, they made reservations through the Defense Travel System and used the closest available and least expensive accommodations to the airfield within the crews' allowable hotel rates. While we are still reviewing the trip records, we have found nothing that falls outside the guidelines associated with selecting stopover airports on travel routes and hotel accommodations for crew rest" ...

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/08/politics/air-force-donald-trump-turnberry/index.html

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Captain Zero

(6,773 posts)
3. Was this a 'usual' expense during Obama & Bush admins?
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 05:32 PM
Sep 2019

Is the next question that needs to be asked. I know what I would bet on for the answer.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
4. A simple question is - how often did something like this happen before Trump became President?
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 05:32 PM
Sep 2019

Was it "not unusual" then?

Takket

(21,524 posts)
9. so we've been flying to Kuwait since the early 1990s...
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 05:58 PM
Sep 2019

how many times did a crew stop to refuel in Scotland which is...... well... look at a map. Scotland and Kuwait aren't exactly on the same line of latitude

Abnredleg

(669 posts)
14. It's not uncommon
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 06:07 PM
Sep 2019

Prestwick was the easternmost end of the trans-Atlantic ferry route for US aircraft during WWII. If the C-17 was flying from the US with heavy load then Scotland would be a logical place to refuel.

Staying at a Trump hotel was stupid, however.

RockRaven

(14,873 posts)
10. Saying "there's nothing unusual here" is not a defense of one set of actions, it is a confession
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 05:59 PM
Sep 2019

of far greater misdeeds and systematic corruption!

Freethinker65

(9,995 posts)
11. Easy enough to back check room rates for the dates in question
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 05:59 PM
Sep 2019

Cost of fuel vs. refueling at US bases, etc.

Did they receive a Trump discount? Was it rack rate?

uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
17. Of course 1 stop is not unusual maybe ... but 11 million dollars worth of stops? Really ?! ...
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 06:46 PM
Sep 2019

... "allowable hotel" rates but per dium doesn't cover expenses?!

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