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Pale Blue Dot

(16,831 posts)
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 06:18 PM Aug 2012

Invisible tinfoil hat: Clint Eastwood is a long-term plant for our side.

I know, I know, it sounds ridiculous. I mean, he's been a lifelong Republican, including spending time as a Republican mayor in California. Yet I've always believed that there's something fishy going on:

1. His most recent movies, which he produces and directs as well as scores (sometimes) have sometimes subtle, but often not-so-subtle, liberal overtones. Million Dollar Baby is the most obvious example, but it doesn't take a socialist to see liberal themes in Unforgiven, Invictus, Hereafter, J. Edgar, Mystic River and Changling. Probably the most right-wing movie he's made in the past 20 years is Flags of Our Fathers, and to balance that he made Letters From Iwo Jima, told from the Japanese point of view, in the same year.

2. As director and producer, he gets to choose the actors he works with. For some reason, he seems to always choose the most outspoken liberals in Hollywood: Matt Damon, Sean Penn, Tim Robbins, Angelina Jolie... Morgan Freeman is one of his best friends!

So I am left with only 1 of 2 conclusions based on last night's performance: either he has really taken leave of all of his senses; or, he has been playing the Republicans for fools all this time and set out to deliberately make them look bad.

You decide.

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Invisible tinfoil hat: Clint Eastwood is a long-term plant for our side. (Original Post) Pale Blue Dot Aug 2012 OP
Ha! ... babylonsister Aug 2012 #1
... Fumesucker Aug 2012 #2
One... he's not a bat shit crazy repub. -..__... Aug 2012 #3
His biggest money-maker as a director in the past 15 years was Pale Blue Dot Aug 2012 #5
Let me guess... -..__... Aug 2012 #10
You haven't seen it? Pale Blue Dot Aug 2012 #11
Nope... I've seen it. -..__... Aug 2012 #13
Had the same wild thought. Beats thinking Clint has gone bonkers. DirkGently Aug 2012 #4
I don't think he's a plant for our side XemaSab Aug 2012 #6
actually he was a perfect distraction for Romney... less attention on maggot mouth is good for him fascisthunter Aug 2012 #7
Well, he did manage to turn a crowd of blood-thirsty war-mongers into what looked like sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #8
He's the new "chair-man" of the RNC. Zorra Aug 2012 #9
IMO--I think he has no idea what party to belong to ideologically--politically naive librechik Aug 2012 #12
Yes, his Superbowl ad and this. He seems confused. ErikJ Aug 2012 #20
Well, that's sure as hell how it turned out, anyway. sofa king Aug 2012 #14
He's got a movie coming out XemaSab Aug 2012 #15
I was thinking the same thing last night. sofa king Aug 2012 #19
It is entirely possible. Kalidurga Aug 2012 #16
^ Agree with you ^ Mimosa Aug 2012 #18
Al Gore last night said some of his best friends were Republicans. RebelOne Aug 2012 #17
"Flags of Our Fathers" waltcoogan Jun 2014 #21
 

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(7,776 posts)
3. One... he's not a bat shit crazy repub.
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 06:26 PM
Aug 2012

Two... he doesn't mix his political beliefs with his business end.

If his films were perceived as leaning to far left (or right), all it does is alienate a segment of potential movies goers.

Pale Blue Dot

(16,831 posts)
5. His biggest money-maker as a director in the past 15 years was
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 06:30 PM
Aug 2012
Million Dollar Baby, which royally pissed off the right wing.

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
6. I don't think he's a plant for our side
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 06:31 PM
Aug 2012

but he's smart and he thinks for himself.

The last 12 years have been a hard time to be a smart Republican.

It's almost like a trope from one of his movies: there's nothing more dangerous than a man who just doesn't give a fuck.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
8. Well, he did manage to turn a crowd of blood-thirsty war-mongers into what looked like
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 06:40 PM
Aug 2012

a Liberal anti-war rally after he railed against the War in Afghanistan.

And then he got them to protest Obama's 'failure to close Gitmo'. So now are we to believe that Republicans, who never saw a war they didn't like or torture they didn't think was entertainment, are now anti-war and pro the closing of Gitmo?

He also succeeded in completely obliterating Romney's Convention speech all over the news today. I didn't see either his or Romney's speeches, but I have no clue what Romney said due to coverage of what Clint Eastwood said.

If he really is a left wing mole, it's probably his greatest role ever.

librechik

(30,674 posts)
12. IMO--I think he has no idea what party to belong to ideologically--politically naive
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 06:46 PM
Aug 2012

and just chose Repub cuz he has Repub friends. Now he's stuck with them even though he doesn't believe in much (any?) of their platform. Cuz he's kinda not aware of things.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
14. Well, that's sure as hell how it turned out, anyway.
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 06:51 PM
Aug 2012

Whether he intended to or not I doubt we will ever know for sure. But he couldn't have done much better at upstaging the nominee and further tattering the veil of Republican credibility.

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
15. He's got a movie coming out
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 06:54 PM
Aug 2012

In the next few weeks we're going to see him making the rounds and looking oh-so-sane.

If I'm wrong then I will eat crow, but I'm pretty damn sure he knew what he was doing.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
19. I was thinking the same thing last night.
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 11:13 PM
Aug 2012

He produced that film and it looks uninteresting enough to send him scrounging for his next project's funds. Maybe he already got them, and still walked away with his conscience.

Or maybe his conscience has eroded entirely. Can't tell yet.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
16. It is entirely possible.
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 07:06 PM
Aug 2012

He did in a sort of a veiled way tell Mitt Romney to go f*ck himself. He pretended it was invisible Obama, but if it is really; what he wanted to do, he found a way to do it and not get blamed for it. There wasn't a whole lot in that mess that looked like a Romney endorsement. And there was that weird throat cutting motion that was over the top and it looked like it was designed to be over the top. I really don't know what to make of that mess. I hope the guy isn't senile.

Mimosa

(9,131 posts)
18. ^ Agree with you ^
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 07:14 PM
Aug 2012

Eastwood is a libertarian with some New Deal social leanings and some Eisenhower type Republican fiscal leanings.

Nobody who knows him well would be posting here, but that's who he is and he is not senile although he is aging.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
17. Al Gore last night said some of his best friends were Republicans.
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 07:10 PM
Aug 2012

So even if Eastwood did hire liberal actors, I do not think their political leanings made much difference.

waltcoogan

(5 posts)
21. "Flags of Our Fathers"
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 08:44 AM
Jun 2014

There is absolutely nothing "right-wing" about Flags of Our Fathers. Indeed, the film constitutes a critique of the US Government's deceptive propaganda efforts at the end of World War II and shows the toll that those propaganda efforts, along with the brutality of war, takes on the soldiers. In effect, the film suggests that celebrating soldiers as heroes may seem great to the rest of us, but for the soldiers themselves, the celebratory dynamic misses the point and results in brutal disillusionment.

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