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Don't threaten, just do it! (Original Post) triron Sep 2019 OP
Im really damn sick of these games Fullduplexxx Sep 2019 #1
K&R!!!!!!! n/t RKP5637 Sep 2019 #2
When will they learn?! triron Sep 2019 #6
Like the GOP gets so scared of these threats ... n/t RKP5637 Sep 2019 #3
Perhaps the threats should be strongly worded dalton99a Sep 2019 #4
recommended to publicize real Cannabis calm Sep 2019 #5
Yes, it's tiresome gratuitous Sep 2019 #7
This makes congress pretty ineffective imo. triron Sep 2019 #8
it exposes our constitution as a sham. maxsolomon Sep 2019 #10
I am increasingly disappointed in the constitution and our so-called 'justice' system. triron Sep 2019 #12
Uhmmm. OK. Guess that settles that. (nt) stopdiggin Sep 2019 #14
they have no timely means to force compliance with their oversight responsibilities. maxsolomon Sep 2019 #16
do you see any (rational) recourse? (nt) stopdiggin Sep 2019 #17
obviously i don't. i already said as much. maxsolomon Sep 2019 #18
and your suggestion for a "more effective" congress? stopdiggin Sep 2019 #13
excellent explanation stopdiggin Sep 2019 #15
yes, that's what they keep saying Skittles Sep 2019 #26
knr triron Sep 2019 #9
the committee SHOULD KNOW goddamn well why they are ignoring this request. spanone Sep 2019 #11
I don't click on tweet links so a hint for this cryptic thread would have been nice. n/t elocs Sep 2019 #19
You can't see it? Quite a bit of detail I see. triron Sep 2019 #20
"Don't threaten, just do it!" Who threatens? Just do what? A title should be like a headline elocs Sep 2019 #21
According to? triron Sep 2019 #23
Unfortunately, while Dems are checking the regs..dotting our "i"s, crossing our "t"s SoCalDem Sep 2019 #22
Conplicitousness? triron Sep 2019 #24
kick for visibility triron Sep 2019 #25

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
7. Yes, it's tiresome
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 12:09 PM
Sep 2019

But there are certain hoops to be jumped through before a subpoena will be issued. If and when this comes before a judge to force the Secretary of Defense to comply with a congressional request, the judge is going to want to be sure that all the procedural niceties were observed: Did you ask for these records? Yes? Did you give the Secretary a reasonable period of time to respond? Did the Secretary fail to meet that deadline or ask for more time? Did you inform the Secretary that the next step would be a subpoena? Did the Secretary fail to respond to the subpoena, if only to tell you to go jump in the lake? All right, you exhausted your administrative remedies, the court will now hear the arguments of the parties as to why Congress should ask for these records and, if it's a legitimate request (as it appears to be, which is why the court is involved), why the Secretary doesn't think he needs to respond to Congress.

If you don't go through all these steps, a judge will make you go back and do them before he or she will hear any motion to compel a response.

maxsolomon

(33,327 posts)
16. they have no timely means to force compliance with their oversight responsibilities.
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 02:21 PM
Sep 2019

mnuchin is running roughshod over their lawful requests. DOJ won't help them.

do you see this otherwise?

maxsolomon

(33,327 posts)
18. obviously i don't. i already said as much.
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 02:37 PM
Sep 2019

if i'd said "toothless", would that be better? our constitution has been exposed as toothless.

stopdiggin

(11,302 posts)
13. and your suggestion for a "more effective" congress?
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 02:07 PM
Sep 2019

somebody provides a decent explanation .....

stopdiggin

(11,302 posts)
15. excellent explanation
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 02:13 PM
Sep 2019

Thanks, once again, for taking the time to lay out some of the "legal legwork" (and facts on the ground) involved. Apparently we need to keep hearing them ...

spanone

(135,830 posts)
11. the committee SHOULD KNOW goddamn well why they are ignoring this request.
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 01:56 PM
Sep 2019

like they've fucking ignored every other request.

elocs

(22,571 posts)
21. "Don't threaten, just do it!" Who threatens? Just do what? A title should be like a headline
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 03:59 PM
Sep 2019

and tell you what the thread is about.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
22. Unfortunately, while Dems are checking the regs..dotting our "i"s, crossing our "t"s
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 05:14 PM
Sep 2019

republicans are packing courts, breaking every rule, rampaging at will..

It's what we do. and it's why we lose a majority when we do finally get one.. we do not use the power we seek.

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