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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 12:17 AM Sep 2019

Well, well, well...it almost sounds like Trump is vetting his next Security Advisor.

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

Excellent interview by @CondoleezzaRice on @MarthaMaccallum on @FoxNews. Very interesting and secure perspective on life.

8:49 PM · Sep 10, 2019·Twitter for iPhone


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Well, well, well...it almost sounds like Trump is vetting his next Security Advisor. (Original Post) Miles Archer Sep 2019 OP
LOLOL Skittles Sep 2019 #1
CondorLizard is too smart to take a job with Trump. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2019 #2
I was going to say that! trixie2 Sep 2019 #3
exactly my take (nt) stopdiggin Sep 2019 #6
I was going to say the same thing Dorian Gray Sep 2019 #7
:) If only. But she's "relieved" no Taliban at Camp David and Hortensis Sep 2019 #9
Kindauseless Rice. CentralMass Sep 2019 #4
*Susan* Rice was on CNN and MSNBC today criticizing him. He cannot stand women of color doing that. RockRaven Sep 2019 #5
"Very interesting and secure perpective on life"? tanyev Sep 2019 #8
+1. Bizarre. Hortensis Sep 2019 #10
The four horsemen: "Populism, nativism, protectionism, isolationism" Hortensis Sep 2019 #11

Dorian Gray

(13,479 posts)
7. I was going to say the same thing
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 06:38 AM
Sep 2019

I don't think she's stupid enough to get into bed with this administration.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
9. :) If only. But she's "relieved" no Taliban at Camp David and
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 08:32 AM
Sep 2019

and likens Trump's foreign policy to the four horsemen of the apocalypse. Maybe she's trying to head off an offer.

From today's The Hill:

Condoleezza Rice warns of 'Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse' in US foreign policy

Former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice warned in a new interview that America could be headed toward a crisis because of rising nationalist and protectionist forces.

Speaking on "CBS This Morning," the former national security adviser said she was most worried about internal issues that the U.S. faces and appeared to take a veiled shot at the Trump administration with criticism of "populism," "isolationism," "protectionism," and "nativisim," all labels that have been applied to the Trump administration's trade and immigration policies by its critics.

"I've seen the return of what I've called the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse," Rice said, evoking the biblical figures. "Populism, I'll say nativism, not nationalism, isolationism and protectionism."

"We did that before. It was the period between World War I and World War II. It led to a Great Depression. It led to a war. And the system we put in place after World War II, of free markets and free trade and kind of global commons that we talk about here, that system worked awfully well. It's under challenge now," she added. ...

RockRaven

(14,893 posts)
5. *Susan* Rice was on CNN and MSNBC today criticizing him. He cannot stand women of color doing that.
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 12:46 AM
Sep 2019

In light of that fact, I am curious: what is the timeline of Susan Rice's appearances, and Condoleeza Rice's appearance, and Trump's tweet. I don't watch cable news regularly, so I don't know when these things aired live.

I strongly suspect the tweet occurred *after* he saw Susan Rice's appearance. A sort of passive-aggressive "oh yeah?" thing: "See? I've got a black woman on my side!"

tanyev

(42,515 posts)
8. "Very interesting and secure perpective on life"?
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 08:29 AM
Sep 2019

1. That's not a combination of words that Donald Trump's brain would produce.
2. What the hell does that even mean?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
11. The four horsemen: "Populism, nativism, protectionism, isolationism"
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 09:14 AM
Sep 2019
"I've seen the return of what I've called the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse," Rice said, evoking the biblical figures. "Populism, I'll say nativism (not nationalism), isolationism and protectionism."

"We did that before. It was the period between World War I and World War II. It led to a Great Depression. It led to a war. And the system we put in place after World War II, of free markets and free trade and kind of global commons that we talk about here, that system worked awfully well. It's under challenge now," she added. ...

Populism is, by its nature, anti-pluralist, and thus very dangerous to democracies. Populist movements draw those angry at, and wanting to put an end to, being outvoted by majorities. They can arise among people of ANY political ideology.

Thus, in the U.S. Trump and Sanders can advocate very different ideologies yet draw many of the same people by appealing to the same resentments and antagonisms. (Remembering that Trump probably stole the 2016 election and Sanders asked the superdelegates to set aside the Democrats' popular vote for his opponent and give him the nomination, as he promised his supporters many times he would.)

Pluralism as a political philosophy is the recognition and affirmation of diversity within a political body, which permits the peaceful coexistence of different interests, convictions, and lifestyles.
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