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Kid Berwyn

(14,904 posts)
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 12:23 AM Sep 2019

The President of the United States is a traitor.

The news the CIA extricated a secret agent who worked for decades in the Kremlin to monitor and report Putin’s doings, fearing Donald J. Trump would out an American spy to the Russian president, shows the U.S. national security apparatus doesn’t trust the President to keep secrets from our nation’s enemies.



That fact is amazing. And it reinforces through eyewitness reporting what Mueller documented: Putin and Russia helped elect Trump, Trump welcomed the help, Trump returned the favor through policies and actions to help Putin, and Trump has done nothing but lie about it all.

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Kid Berwyn

(14,904 posts)
11. "There's two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump."
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 09:54 AM
Sep 2019

Should have led every broadcast.

Should have been on every front page, above the fold.

Most importantly: Should have been top of mind for every Republican voter.

Kid Berwyn

(14,904 posts)
12. A pattern emerges.
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 10:03 AM
Sep 2019
The Hidden History of Trump’s First Trip to Moscow

In 1987, a young real estate developer traveled to the Soviet Union. The KGB almost certainly made the trip happen.


By LUKE HARDING
Politico, November 19, 2017

Excerpt...

Trump's first visit to Soviet Moscow in 1987 looks, with hindsight, to be part of a pattern. The dossier by the former British intelligence officer Christopher Steele asserts that the Kremlin had been cultivating Trump for “at least five years” before his stunning victory in the 2016 US presidential election. This would take us back to around 2011 or 2012.

In fact, the Soviet Union was interested in him too, three decades earlier. The top level of the Soviet diplomatic service arranged his 1987 Moscow visit. With assistance from the KGB. It took place while Kryuchkov was seeking to improve the KGB's operational techniques in one particular and sensitive area. The spy chief wanted KGB staff abroad to recruit more Americans.

Snip...

As Trump tells it, the idea for his first trip to Moscow came after he found himself seated next to the Soviet ambassador Yuri Dubinin. This was in autumn 1986; the event was a luncheon held by Leonard Lauder, the businessman son of Estée Lauder. Dubinin’s daughter Natalia “had read about Trump Tower and knew all about it,” Trump said in his 1987 bestseller, The Art of the Deal.

Trump continued: “One thing led to another, and now I’m talking about building a large luxury hotel, across the street from the Kremlin, in partnership with the Soviet government.”

Trump’s chatty version of events is incomplete. According to Natalia Dubinina, the actual story involved a more determined effort by the Soviet government to seek out Trump. In February 1985 Kryuchkov complained again about “the lack of appreciable results of recruitment against the Americans in most Residencies.” The ambassador arrived in New York in March 1986. His original job was Soviet ambassador to the U.N.; his daughter Dubinina was already living in the city with her family, and she was part of the Soviet U.N. delegation.

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https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/19/trump-first-moscow-trip-215842

Kid Berwyn

(14,904 posts)
14. Good catch! Never thought there'd be a "President Trump."
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 10:14 AM
Sep 2019

Perhaps it takes away some of the shock of writing the “President of the United States is a traitor.”



Now that I’ve gotten to better understand the Demented and Perverted Bankrupt Unstable Moron, I can see how his treason really should be no surprise.

Kid Berwyn

(14,904 posts)
16. No transcripts.
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 12:28 PM
Sep 2019

And when he’s asked, he gets mad. From The Atlantic:



Trump: He sort of smiled when he said something to the effect that it started off as a mountain and it ended up being a mouse. But he knew that, because you knew there was no collusion whatsoever. So that is pretty much what it was—

Reporter: Did you tell him not to meddle in the next election?

Trump: Excuse me. I’m talking. I’m answering this question. You are very rude. So we had a good conversation about many different things. Okay.

Reporter: Did you tell him not to meddle in the next election?

Trump: We didn’t discuss that. Really, we didn’t discuss it. We discussed five or six things.



Remember when Jared wanted to set up a “secure” communication channel to Moscow?



What We Know About Efforts to Set Up a Trump-Russia Back Channel

By Margaret Hartmann
The Intelligencer, March 8, 2018

Excerpt...

• Kushner and Flynn secretly met with Kislyak in Trump Tower on December 1, 2016. Last spring the Washington Post reported that Kushner proposed using Russian diplomatic facilities in the U.S. to establish a back channel for communication between the Trump transition and the Russian government. U.S. intelligence intercepted Kislyak describing the request to his superiors.

Kushner told Congress that Kislyak raised the idea, saying he wanted to convey information from his “generals” about the Syrian civil war, but needed a secure line. Kushner said he suggested going through the Russian embassy, but nothing came of it:

I believed developing a thoughtful approach on Syria was a very high priority given the ongoing humanitarian crisis, and I asked if they had an existing communications channel at his embassy we could use where they would be comfortable transmitting the information they wanted to relay to General Flynn. The Ambassador said that would not be possible and so we all agreed that we would receive this information after the Inauguration.

Source: http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/03/the-push-for-a-trump-russia-back-channel-what-we-know.html



It’s like “The Manchurian Candidate” meets “Pawn Stars,” without the charm, of course.

Flaleftist

(3,473 posts)
6. Trump burned the most valuable spy we had in Russia
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 01:26 AM
Sep 2019

and Republicans don't give a shit. He really could just shoot a person on 5th Avenue and keep their support.

gordianot

(15,238 posts)
7. As the time gets closer to 2020 I suspect we have seen nothing yet.
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 02:05 AM
Sep 2019

Trump may try to gather dirt on Democrat’s but include all of our former allies, the IC community, people he fired on Twitter, old buisness partners, survivors of violent massacres, victims of Trump fraud who are just begging to set the growth of orange hair on Trump’s combover on fire. I expect to be overwhelmed

drmeow

(5,017 posts)
17. McConnell is a bigger traitor
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 04:24 PM
Sep 2019

He's letting Trump get away with it. There is no punishment severe enough for Moscow Mitch but I'd start with striping him of everything he owns and leaving him naked and homeless somewhere wicked cold.

FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
19. That spy can no doubt reveal that Chump is in fact a Russian asset
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 04:37 PM
Sep 2019

The agent is Russian and living in or near Washington DC now. He reported directly to Putin and he was close enough that he could make photographs of sensitive state documents and turn them over to the CIA. In 2017 he and his family were extracted out of Moscow in order to save their lives. If Chump had ever known, he surely would have blabbed it to Putin.

But isn't there another side to this? That Russian spy was in the Kremlin when Putin took steps to get Chump elected. He would certainly be able to testify and bring Chump down, if there's ever a trial or an impeachment. This guy needs to be kept safe in a secret location for the time being. But the CIA knows where he is.

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