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(17,235 posts)still_one
(91,937 posts)believe
Blues Heron
(5,898 posts)Amazing how they so quickly morphed the enemy from 12 psycho Saudis to whole countries and regions and decades of unending violence. Something deeply deeply wrong with this country to allow this. And now Trump. What a shitty 20 years.
Takket
(21,421 posts)If Gore was president he would not have ignored the bin laden memo. And 9/11 wouldnt have happened. I trace everything back to Florida 2000
still_one
(91,937 posts)Clinton warning about this, which Cheney through that report away
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sinkingfeeling
(51,274 posts)BlueTsunami2018
(3,461 posts)I think the Kennedy assassination was when we really lost the country. It only got worse from there. Nixon, Reagan, both Bushes and now this asshole. One thing led to the next step downward and no one did anything about it. No one was ever held accountable for any of this.
And frankly, I dont think Тяцмр will be either.
still_one
(91,937 posts)War
BlueTsunami2018
(3,461 posts)But we had gone a hundred years on a somewhat normal path after that, improving slowly but surely. I think the Kennedy assassination put the MIC (and satellite oligarchs) in firm control and its only gotten worse since. And all to the detriment of our working and middle classes. Since then, the conservative movement has used the military and false patriotism to erode all the gains we had made as far as closing the income gap and other macro economic issues. Reagan (or rather his puppeteers) used his strength and patriotism to convince people to accept trickle down bullshit and his Republican successors have doubled and tripled down on it. W and Cheney were particularly egregious and disgusting in exploiting those things to the point where if you disagreed with them about anything at all, you were anti-American and pro-terrorism. Тяцмр (or rather his puppeteers) is doing very much the same thing except using immigrants as his main foil.
There are many turning points in our history but I think the killing of JFK really started the ball rolling to where we are now, on the brink of actual fascism.
still_one
(91,937 posts)JHB
(37,128 posts)The "new Pearl Harbor" they were wishing for.
The big chance to push their pet projects which they could never hope to bring off without alarm bells muting opposition.
still_one
(91,937 posts)elocs
(22,474 posts)kentuck
(110,950 posts)It's sad that there were some willing to surrender their liberties for safety during those times.
Johnny2X2X
(18,734 posts)America is not recognizable from what it once was. We gave up our freedoms and are now in the process of giving up our Democracy.