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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,393 posts)
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 04:40 PM Sep 2019

New Photos Emerge of Falwell at Miami Nightclub

FilthyMouthedHat Retweeted

Lying about photos and slandering a photographer is cause for dismissal. If Jerry Falwell Jr. is still president of Christian college Liberty University next week, the word “Christian” holds zero value.



New Photos Emerge of Falwell at Miami Nightclub
Owner of Miami nightlife website finds additional images rebutting Jerry Falwell Jr.’s claims of photoshopping.

By BRANDON AMBROSINO September 10, 2019

Brandon Ambrosino is a writer living in Delaware. His articles have appeared in the New York Times, Boston Globe and the BBC, among other outlets.

One day after POLITICO published a piece in which Jerry Falwell Jr. denied visiting a Miami Beach nightclub in July 2014 and alleged that any images showing such were “photo-shopped,” a new trove of photos showing Falwell at the club has been released.

Seth Browarnik, the owner of World Red Eye, a photography company that documents Miami’s bustling nightlife scene, says he was unaware how many photos he had of Falwell until Falwell alleged that his site’s images were manipulated—prompting Browarnik to explore his photo archive to prove otherwise.

On Tuesday, Browarnik published the newly unearthed photos on his website, WorldRedEye.com, along with a strongly worded “rebuke” of Falwell’s claim of photoshopping.

“First things first,” Browarnik told me over the phone, “we didn’t even know [Falwell] was in the photos. Number one! Finding him in the crowd is like a ‘Where’s Waldo?’”

Browarnik lives high up in a South Beach skyrise, from which he can see the Falwell-owned Miami Hostel. Not that the owners of the flophouse crossed Browarnik’s mind that often. He didn’t even know his company had taken any photos of Liberty University’s first family partying at Wall, a Miami Beach nightclub, until he saw them identified in the piece published by POLITICO yesterday.

“All of a sudden, I scroll down and say, ‘Oh my god!’” Browarnik said.
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New Photos Emerge of Falwell at Miami Nightclub (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2019 OP
"Christian" hasn't held a lot of value with me in many years... Wounded Bear Sep 2019 #1
The word "Christian" has almost no propositional value. Act_of_Reparation Sep 2019 #2
Hi Act_of_Reparation - Excellent point! Pendrench Sep 2019 #4
Right on. Act_of_Reparation Sep 2019 #5
I like the cut of your jib. Gore1FL Sep 2019 #20
Hi Gore1FL - thank you for your kind words. Pendrench Sep 2019 #22
wow, this is almost as good Ted Haggard's Boy Toy incident. Thomas Hurt Sep 2019 #3
Now, I ain't sayin' the Boy Toy and the Pool Boy are gay, 3Hotdogs Sep 2019 #12
Maybe I'm reaching here, but of course... blugbox Sep 2019 #6
He should get ready to go full Jimmy Swaggart Sneederbunk Sep 2019 #7
Hahahahahaha matt819 Sep 2019 #8
'Proselytizing', Jerry... Try the word 'proselytizing'. keithbvadu2 Sep 2019 #9
Hypocrisy in the evangelical community? Say it ain't so!!! n/t SpankMe Sep 2019 #10
Was the pool boy in any of the photos? malaise Sep 2019 #11
I thought your headline was lead-in to a joke StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #13
K&R Scurrilous Sep 2019 #14
More like Jim Bakker everyday... pbmus Sep 2019 #15
The guy is a piece of shit, but what is the big deal about him being at a nightclub. boston bean Sep 2019 #16
It's partly a cover-up is worse than the crime thing TlalocW Sep 2019 #18
Lie and Deny.. HipChick Sep 2019 #19
Trying to make converts? Miigwech Sep 2019 #17
kick JohnnyRingo Sep 2019 #21
Falwell: I Never Said I Wasn't At That Miami Nightclub. I Was Only There 30 Minutes To Hear Music. mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2019 #23
Liberty University's Jerry Falwell Jr. says he was target of 'attempted coup' related to Trump mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2019 #24
My absolute favorite part of this Recursion Sep 2019 #25

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
2. The word "Christian" has almost no propositional value.
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 04:49 PM
Sep 2019

It means you follow Jesus.

It doesn't mean you don't go to nightclubs, or that you don't lie about going to nightclubs, or slander photographers who take pictures of you in nightclubs. When it comes to behavior, being "Christian" has virtually no predictive power whatsoever. Maybe we should stop pretending that it does.

Pendrench

(1,356 posts)
4. Hi Act_of_Reparation - Excellent point!
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 04:58 PM
Sep 2019

I'm in complete agreement.

I am a Christian, and that simply means that I believe in the divinity of Christ...that belief does not make me a good person, and it certainly doesn't make me a better person than anyone else.

I should be judged by how I act and how I treat others - not on my beliefs.

Wishing you well and peace.

Tim



Gore1FL

(21,127 posts)
20. I like the cut of your jib.
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 07:41 PM
Sep 2019

I don't know why, but I found your post, for lack of a better word, inspiring. If this interaction is your norm, I suspect you are judged positively most often.


Pendrench

(1,356 posts)
22. Hi Gore1FL - thank you for your kind words.
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 09:40 AM
Sep 2019

If that's the case, I give all credit to my parents.

Thank you again - wishing you well and peace

Tim

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
3. wow, this is almost as good Ted Haggard's Boy Toy incident.
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 04:56 PM
Sep 2019

Obviously, like Ted, Falwell is there to spread the gospel and save the heathens from themselves. (wink,wink)

3Hotdogs

(12,372 posts)
12. Now, I ain't sayin' the Boy Toy and the Pool Boy are gay,
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 06:27 PM
Sep 2019

but if they were, it would be the job of Jerry and Teddikins to take them aside and point them to Jesus's way.

blugbox

(951 posts)
6. Maybe I'm reaching here, but of course...
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 05:06 PM
Sep 2019

Even the name of the club they were partying at... Wall.

Disgusting and hypocritical

keithbvadu2

(36,775 posts)
9. 'Proselytizing', Jerry... Try the word 'proselytizing'.
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 05:55 PM
Sep 2019

'Proselytizing', Jerry... Try the word 'proselytizing'.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
13. I thought your headline was lead-in to a joke
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 06:30 PM
Sep 2019

Well, considering who you're talking about, it kind of is, I guess ..

TlalocW

(15,380 posts)
18. It's partly a cover-up is worse than the crime thing
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 06:54 PM
Sep 2019

He's in charge of a university that will not only give demerits to students if they're seen dancing but also monetarily fine them, and to be in such a den of iniquity is not a good image for him to cultivate.

TlalocW

JohnnyRingo

(18,624 posts)
21. kick
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 08:00 PM
Sep 2019

Now I have to watch the next episode of The Righteous Gemstones tonight for perspective.

Everybody loves to see a lying sleazeball hypocrite get taken down. I would pay money for a vial full of Jim & Tammy Faye Baker's tears.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,393 posts)
23. Falwell: I Never Said I Wasn't At That Miami Nightclub. I Was Only There 30 Minutes To Hear Music.
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 10:34 AM
Sep 2019
Falwell: I Never Said I Wasn’t At That Miami Nightclub And I Was Only There 30 Minutes To Hear The Music
September 11, 2019

The Christian Post reports:

A photographer has pushed back against any suggestion that images he captured of Liberty University President Jerry Falwell Jr. at a Miami Beach nightclub in July 2014 were photo-shopped as the Christian college leader admitted Wednesday to being at the club for about 30 minutes.

In a statement to Politico, Jerry Falwell allegedly denied the existence of any photo of him at the club in an in-depth report by LU graduate Ambrosino that purports to paint a “culture of fear and self-dealing at the largest Christian college in the world.”

“There was no picture snapped of me at WALL nightclub or any other nightclub,” Falwell told the publication. “I’m sure you already knew that though.” In a tweet on Wednesday Falwell admitted he was at the nightclub but didn’t back away from his claim that the photos of him at the nightclub were likely fake.

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Just for the record, I never denied going into a club with my family to listen to music for about 30 minutes years ago. I only denied I asked anyone to scrub pics of me. I never knew of any pics until a week ago DUH. LU’s lawyers and criminal authorities will go after the leakers



So it wasn't photo-shopped?



Maybe it was photoshopped, I don’t know. But you’re missing the point: I never denied I was there 5 years ago. #FactsMatter



It was not photo-shopped, as @worldREDEYE made clear.



And your point is?


mahatmakanejeeves

(57,393 posts)
24. Liberty University's Jerry Falwell Jr. says he was target of 'attempted coup' related to Trump
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 10:44 AM
Sep 2019

Last edited Thu Sep 12, 2019, 05:29 PM - Edit history (3)

I hope one of his attorneys is a Jew.

Stop hating! I was referring to Roy Moore's wife's proud claim that one of Roy Moore's attorneys was a Jew:



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Falwell tells @sarah_rankin and @AlanSuderman Liberty has hired "the meanest lawyer in New York" to respond to the Politico piece.

He also calls the reporter "a little boy"



Falwell said he has evidence that disgruntled former board members and employees improperly shared emails with reporters in a "criminal" smear campaign. He said the "attempted coup" was partially motivated by his ardent backing of President Donald Trump.



Liberty University's Jerry Falwell Jr. says he was target of 'attempted coup' related to Trump, asks for FBI probe
By SARAH RANKIN AND ALAN SUDERMAN The Associated Press Sep 10, 2019

Liberty University President Jerry Falwell Jr. said Tuesday that he is asking the FBI to investigate what he called a “criminal” smear campaign orchestrated against him by several disgruntled former board members and employees.

Falwell told The Associated Press he has evidence that the group improperly shared emails belonging to the university with reporters in an attempt to discredit him. He said the “attempted coup” was partially motivated by his ardent backing of President Donald Trump.

Falwell, head of the nation’s most high-profile evangelical college, was among the earliest Christian conservatives to endorse Trump’s campaign.

His allegations come after the publication of a story in Politico Magazine on Monday that alleged Falwell “presides over a culture of self-dealing” at Liberty that has improperly benefited him and his family. The story cited unnamed sources described as current and former officials or Falwell associates.

“I’m not going to dignify the lies that were reported yesterday with a response, but I am going to the authorities and I am going to civil court,” Falwell said, referring to the reporter as a “little boy.”

He added that Liberty has hired “the meanest lawyer in New York,” whom he declined to identify, to pursue civil cases. Falwell also declined to identify the people he said were spreading the emails.
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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
25. My absolute favorite part of this
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 11:56 AM
Sep 2019

is that Falwell doubled down on putting his integrity up against the photographer's. Now, the photog is something of a sleazeball paparazzo whose career is mostly based on getting upskirts of celebrities and socialites, but the thing is part of that business is he has to be extremely meticulous about where and when each shot was taken, and who was verifiably at that event. He's got pages of documentation for every shot he took. So Falwell tries to make this a character contest, and manages to lose to this guy.

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