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discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,479 posts)
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 09:00 PM Aug 2012

I have just a few questions

In view of:

Legal experts expect Holmes to plead not guilty by reason of insanity. Prosecutors — who may pursue the death sentence — would have to prove he is sane enough to stand trial. Unlike other states where the defense needs to prove insanity, prosecutors in Colorado have to show that a defendant is sane — all without the ability of having their own experts examine Holmes.


Let's say you're on trial in Colorado. If you assert insanity as a defense the prosecution has to prove that you are sane. What an advantage! You'd have to crazy not to... Umm, but then wouldn't prove insanity if you didn't claim insanity? What was that book called? Catch-22 was it?





link: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-08-31/james-holmes-psychiatrist-aurora-shooting/57474726/1
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I have just a few questions (Original Post) discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2012 OP
There was only one catch and that was Catch-22... Make7 Aug 2012 #1
I'm not a legal scholar or a psychiatrist panader0 Aug 2012 #2
Agreed! turtlerescue1 Aug 2012 #3
You sound... discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2012 #4

Make7

(8,543 posts)
1. There was only one catch and that was Catch-22...
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 09:13 PM
Aug 2012

 
[div class="excerpt" style="margin-left:1em; border:1px solid #bfbfbf; border-radius:0.4615em; box-shadow: 3px 3px #bfbfbf;"]There was only one catch and that was Catch-22, which specified that a concern for one's safety in the face of dangers that were real and immediate was the process of a rational mind. Orr was crazy and could be grounded. All he had to do was ask; and as soon as he did, he would no longer be crazy and would have to fly more missions. Orr would be crazy to fly more missions and sane if he didn't, but if he were sane he had to fly them. If he flew them he was crazy and didn't have to; but if he didn't want to he was sane and had to. Yossarian was moved very deeply by the absolute simplicity of this clause of Catch-22 and let out a respectful whistle.
 

panader0

(25,816 posts)
2. I'm not a legal scholar or a psychiatrist
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 09:13 PM
Aug 2012

but to me, anyone who does something like Holmes did is nuts.
Jared L. from Az, nuts.
Even our service members go nuts after being in Iraq or Afghanistan.
People who murder their boy/girl friends over jealousy, nuts.
I am very hard pressed to think of someone who murders other humans as anything but nuts.

turtlerescue1

(1,013 posts)
3. Agreed!
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 09:20 PM
Aug 2012

I worked locked psych. for a while, and sadly Nuts is Nuts! Spilling someone's life fluid is not sane, when you take a loaded weapon into a theater full of people, you quit caring, you have lost compassion, and this can just never be called normal or sane.



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