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(26,546 posts)Good behavior and all that!
cwydro
(51,308 posts)What a joke.
obamanut2012
(26,076 posts)edbermac
(15,939 posts)Takket
(21,566 posts)Felicity Huffman sentenced to 14 days in prison
From CNN's Mark Morales
Actress Felicity Huffman has been sentenced to 14 days in prison.
Huffman also received a $30,000 fine, 250 hours of community service and one year supervised release, federal Judge Indira Talwani said today in Boston.
Before announcing the sentencing, federal court Judge Indira Talwani said Huffman knew what she did was wrong, saying, She knew it was a fraud it was not an impulsive act.
2naSalit
(86,610 posts)then why the non-sentence? WTF?
yortsed snacilbuper
(7,939 posts)2naSalit
(86,610 posts)customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)to qualify Huffman to write, direct, and star in a show about how hard prison life is for pampered beautiful people.
leftieNanner
(15,100 posts)Huffman accepted the plea deal and acknowledged her fault. Laurie chose to fight the charges. She will get a lot more than two weeks in jail.
By the way EFF YOU for cheating and taking college spots from kids who earned them!
TruckFump
(5,812 posts)IMO, what Huffman got was harsh for what she did in comparison to many involved in this and to criminal sentences in general. My late law partner was a criminal defense atty and IMO this is the kind of stuff that when someone is truly sorry and "mea cupa's" all over the place, the govt usually just gives a find and community service.
Yep, Laughlin and spouse should be very, very nervous...especially if they go to trial and they lose. Huffman spent $15K and Laughlin and spouse spent $500K. Losing at trial could be very, very bad re sentencing.
tblue37
(65,343 posts)figured she had a better chance fighting the charges.
leftieNanner
(15,100 posts)I'm sure they hired an attack dog attorney who will fight for them. But it sounds like the evidence is pretty damning.
Takket
(21,566 posts)"Loughlin and Giannulli later rejected a plea deal, including for the additional charge of money laundering, that required both to spend two years in prison,[39] and on April 15 pleaded not guilty.[4]
Loughlin regretted not taking the plea deal and was angered at Giannulli for suggesting that they reject the plea deal as he feared that it would ruin their careers.[40] "
Huffman plead guilty pretty quickly and that's why she got off easy. Loughlin on the other hand pretty much blew the whole thing off figuring she was too famous to go to prison but as you can see above she regrets that now that she realizes she might actually be in trouble.
Celerity
(43,357 posts)leftieNanner
(15,100 posts)What clueless assholes! How about ruining their children? And how about those kids who were not accepted at USC because their unqualified daughters took their spots? Huh?
Eff You! I hope you get YEARS in prison and a HUGE fine. What the hell, judge. Take it ALL.
My two daughters busted their asses to get into college and they worked those same asses off during all of their years on campus. My younger daughter did not miss ONE class in all four years. My older one only missed two weeks because she had a concussion.
Hard work. That's what it takes to succeed.
Rant Off.
Takket
(21,566 posts)and that's fair.... the justice system just moves more smoothly that way
but on the other hand....... someone needs to be made an example of. And Loughlin decided to roll the dice on being above the law. she had her chance and should be made to pay now.
PJMcK
(22,037 posts)Then, we shall see.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)paraded around like a "star" posing for selfies with fans, confident that she would get a pass because she is "famous" (for what, I don't know, since I had never heard of her until this case) and completely thumbed her nose at the law.
At least Felicity Huffman show some remorse and humility. I have to give her some credit for that.
Rustyeye77
(2,736 posts)When..
1. they stop legacy students from taking an admission
2. they stop 350 ib football players from getting a free ride
3. they stop sons and daughters of rich parents who buy a building get in
4. they stop overseas students of rich parents from Saudi Arabia who can pay cash get in
maybe later l might care
Shes a real threat to society
leftieNanner
(15,100 posts)My husband went to Stanford and our younger daughter applied there. Within ten seconds of her application being sent, we received a letter in the mail that said Stanford doesn't do legacy and we should not expect that to count towards the admissions decision. It wouldn't have been the best school for her to attend (she was not accepted).
To point #3, we are also not multi-million dollar donors to the school. So, that might have tilted the decision. We are glad that she got into college on her own merit and hard work anyway.
It would certainly be nice if college admittance were an even playing field, but it's not.
Rustyeye77
(2,736 posts)its not an even playing field.
So she wanted the best for her daughter.
And i assume her daughter isnt a 350 ib lineman.
leftieNanner
(15,100 posts)is that cheating to give her something she didn't earn is not at all "best". How humiliated must all of those young people feel (well, maybe not the entitled snotty ones) to know that they got into college in that way.
The messages they get from their parents are that they are not capable nor worthy to get into college on their own merit. Great way to develop self confidence in your kids! NOT!
obamanut2012
(26,076 posts)leftstreet
(36,108 posts)Say what you will, but actors and entertainers don't generally come from great wealth and connections. Although people who DO will continue to bribe and cheat their trust-fundy kids into elite schools with no reprisals.
But dare to come from the working classes and try the same thing...
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)I am glad that she has to go to prison, but I am glad that the jail time is light.
It seems that she has lived a pretty decent life as far as charity is concerned. She appears to be truly remorseful (even considering that she is an actress) and appears determined to make amends to society. The fact that she stopped being involved in the scheme after trying to help the first daughter shows that she had consciousness of the wrongness of it and could not get herself to go further. I honestly would be shocked to see her get anywhere near something like this again.
She appears to have worked hard for what she has and through her efforts had ALREADY given her daughters a massive leg up on most kids. I hope that she think for many years about why she felt that on top of the advantages her kids already had, she had to cheat for one.
So overall, her sentence is just, she has already faced public humiliation and will continue to do so, she gets to feel what having no freedom feels like, she has to do community service and she will have to pay $30,000 in fines.
Tanuki
(14,918 posts)to the tune of $2.5 million?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vogue.com/article/jared-kushner-harvard-admission-college-cheating-scandal/amp
..."1998, when then-unknown New Jersey high school student Jared was looking at colleges, Charles Kushner pledged a gift of $2.5 million to Harvard, to be paid in annual installments of $250,000. Jared eventually graduated from the college in 2003.
Which seemed like an extraordinary feat to those who knew Kushner in high school: There was no way anybody in the administrative office of the school thought he would on the merits get into Harvard, a former official at The Frisch School in Paramus, New Jersey, told Golden. His GPA did not warrant it, his SAT scores did not warrant it. We thought for sure, there was no way this was going to happen. Then, lo and behold, Jared was accepted. It was a little bit disappointing because there were at the time other kids we thought should really get in on the merits, and they did not.
......
"When parents make a big donation directly to a university thats tax-deductible, Golden said, is that really a gift or is that a purchase of a good or service?.....(more)
Poiuyt
(18,123 posts)I agree that they have committed crimes and that people were hurt. But compared to some of the other crimes that we see on a daily basis they are not so serious. No one was really hurt (physically, monetarily, or emotionally) except the individuals who were actually displaced.
That being said, I don't know what an appropriate sentence would be. I also would be happy to be corrected.
obamanut2012
(26,076 posts)The sentence was appropriate, as I explained below. The baying for blood for Huffman is weird to me, as are the attacks against her daughter, who knew nothing about it. She actually is estranged from her parents over this, because she is humiliated they thought so little of her. By all accounts, she is a great kid and a good student.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Case in point: Nobody in the Trump family is in prison yet.
As far as I'm concerned, until they are arrested for their crimes, the message is that "anything goes".
brettdale
(12,381 posts)The African American lady who wasnt famous, got five years for the same thing.
I
obamanut2012
(26,076 posts)brettdale
(12,381 posts)Hold a knife to a womens throat, hold in hostage for 24 hours, and all he got was
a comedy central tv special out of it, while in the same week, that african american
man who wasnt famous got 8 years for taking that snickers bar without paying for it.
spanone
(135,831 posts)lanlady
(7,134 posts)--the mother should have gotten 2-3 months and a hefty fine, the kid should have been charged too as an accessory.
They perpetrated a fraud and stole the spot of a more deserving young person.
obamanut2012
(26,076 posts)The sentence is appropriate.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Somehow, I bet its the latter.
obamanut2012
(26,076 posts)Supervised. She also is exempt from being nominated for Emmys, Golden Globes, SAG Awards, and Oscars this year. She probably would have won the first two for When They See Us.
She also gave a very good apology right away, and admitted guilt immediately. Her daughter also was humiliated and embarrassed when he found out what her parents did to her. Because, it was also done to her daughter.
Huffman is not a danger to society. The only gripe I have is why William Macy wasn't also charged, since he knew about it.
Loughlin, her huband, and fifteen other parents remain defiant to the Feds, and many of their kids knew about the bribes. Huffman and Macy's daughter didn't, and she was also, as per friends and teachers, a hardworking student who really was excited about college.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I think people are being a little too rough on Felicity. She was wrong, but she immediately owned up to it, and her daughter was not complicit. I really don't understand why William Macy was not charged either. Something very strange there.
Lori Laughlin and her husband are the arrogant ones and laughed it off thinking they were too famous to be charged. She is the one who should be sent to jail for what she did or at least pay a huge fine. Her behavior surrounding this whole debacle was shameful. And she is the supposed "Christian" family values person in this whole ordeal. She just makes me sick with her hypocrisy.
brush
(53,778 posts)paid 15k. Laughlin should follow Hoffman's path and own up to it and plead guilty but she's going to trial and will likely get some significant time in jail.
Too bad, so sad.