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(32,675 posts)hard time is for the Little People.
LuvNewcastle
(16,844 posts)lame54
(35,287 posts)Poiuyt
(18,123 posts)I want history to show that at least a part of Congress agreed that Trump and his administration were so corrupt that he deserved impeachment. Even if the Senate does not remove him, he will always be branded as having been impeached, and future generations will see that. I don't want history students 50 or a 100 years from now to think that he was just another president. I want him forever tarnished.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)the very least, list all his crimes on a censure and vote. Say something in the history books.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,606 posts)Nuremberg style tribunals for all, especially those who "followed orders" to separate families and out kids in cages, as well as the rampant corruption.
We need a president who will appoint an AG who will prosecute these things without mercy.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)To find someone who can think outside the McConnell box.
tclambert
(11,085 posts)"Minority Report" I think. With real crime, you have to prosecute what happened in the past.
I hope the people at the top do time for putting children in cages. You know they will try to deny, deny, deny and throw the underlings in Border Patrol under the bus. "Oh, I didn't know what they would do. I thought they'd put them up in nice barracks or dormitories, and I for sure thought they would keep careful track of which children went with which adults." Yet they didn't provide money, or enough judges to process cases promptly, and made cruelty their policy to discourage refugees.
I hope President Warren gives George W. Bush and Dick Cheney to The Hague for war crimes as well.
moreland01
(738 posts)Rendering the oath of office a ceremonial ritual that has zero meaning either for the Office of the President nor the Speaker of the House.
Grasswire2
(13,569 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)unless their voting machines were changed from another continent. If that happens in 2020, McConnell and his cronies should spend life in prison for not protecting democracy.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)god I remember where I read Catch-22-- I can remember the sofa i was sitting on !!!!!!
wiggs
(7,812 posts)DallasNE
(7,403 posts)And why Ford was so wrong when he pardoned Nixon.
Mr.Bill
(24,284 posts)because Nixon didn't die in prison.
CaptainTruth
(6,589 posts)I want Trump behind bars.
Which is one of many reasons why I trust Pelosi, who, in June of this year, made her goal clear when she said "I want to see him in prison."
Me too.
Grasswire2
(13,569 posts).....because he lives for vengeance and would be raising up his base of disaffected Americans to vigilante justice or worse.
My wish: All assets seized, passports pulled, restricted from doing business and public life -- for all of the family.
If they resist, there's the Rosenberg remedy for acts of treason.
orleans
(34,051 posts)about the bush crime family.
we got lucky with obama.
but now we're back to crime families again.
george bush was above the law.
dick cheney was above the law.
donald rumsfuck was above the law.
etc, etc, etc.
it's as if people we're so relieved bush was finally out of office they thought: why relive the past? let's just move on.
Toorich
(391 posts).... Obama said we need to look forward not backward when the notion
of prosecuting Bush and Cheney for war crimes was discussed.
America cannot make that mistake again.
Grasswire2
(13,569 posts)Iran Contra.
Bush v. Gore 2000.
There's lots more of those.....
czarjak
(11,274 posts)"Mission accomplished"? Whatta we gonna do?
bucolic_frolic
(43,152 posts)But today they are more concerned with football, boobs, guns, race, and money.
Few understand what is in their own economic self-interest, and that economics is distinct from religion, party, values, and vapes.
We are cooked like a Christmas goose. There is no way to reach the minds of the people.
dalton99a
(81,485 posts)Kid Berwyn
(14,901 posts)Especially the Barr part.
https://www.villagevoice.com/2019/04/18/attorney-general-william-barr-is-the-best-reason-to-vote-for-clinton/
Billy is the visible tentacle of a very nasty stew of crooks and traitors.
Grasswire2
(13,569 posts)Catch2.2
(629 posts)My fear is that nothing will happen after Trump is out of office. Instead we will be told that it is time to move on and heal the country.
Grasswire2
(13,569 posts)Coastal elites are apparently too timid to stand for liberty and against tyranny. Because that is what we have come to. A choice -- the choice that faced our founding fathers -- to either take on tyrants or kneel to kings in perpetuity. This is our time in the barrel.
Catch2.2
(629 posts)They've already dropped the ball on impeachment. If Trump gets away with no repercussions, then their needs to be a serious shake up in the Dem party!
Ferrets are Cool
(21,106 posts)the bush administration committed?
JudyM
(29,236 posts)Letting Financial Crisis perps walk was a big mistake.
Letting Scalia walk...
Why the hell wouldnt they keep trying to get away with as much as they can when they can get away with everything?
Agree 100%
warmfeet
(3,321 posts)It will be the end of the United States of America.
A country with no line in the sand, is no country at all.
No rule of law, no country.
Vote as though your life depends upon it. It does.
athena
(4,187 posts)If Trump is allowed to get away with this, it will set a terrible precedent. It will announce to all the sociopaths out there that the presidency is the way to enrich oneself at the expense of the American taxpayer. We are lucky that Trump is an idiot. The next Trump will not be an idiot.
Even if a Democrat wins in 2020, the U.S. will still have a hard time regaining the position it had in the world a three years ago. I've been listening to French and French-Canadian news. From the outside, people can't see the division within the United States. They see Trump and his insanity as representing all Americans. It will take a very long time to undo that damage.