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In a new court filing on Friday, Justice Department lawyers argued that the House Judiciary Committees effort to obtain former special counsel Robert Muellers most sensitive secrets evidence and testimony collected by a grand jury should be denied, in part because House Democrats cant agree on what to call their investigation.
Most prominently, the speaker of the House has been emphatic that the investigation is not a true impeachment proceeding, the lawyers wrote, citing Pelosis June statement that Democrats were not even close to such a move.
House Democrats attempt to access Muellers grand-jury information hinges on the courts acknowledging that they are conducting an impeachment investigation. The Judiciary Committee argued in late July that their impeachment investigation satisfies one of the exceptions to federal grand jury secrecy rules: that the House is engaged in an impeachment investigation and therefore is taking an action preliminary to a judicial proceeding the Senates trial on whether to remove Trump from office.
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/13/justice-department-impeachment-house-1494621
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)Can't wait till Barr is also indicted on multiple counts of Obstruction.
HiloHatti
(79 posts)Theyve packed the Courts with sycophants and cultists. McTurtles gift to save his own compromised rear from the Russian Kompromat they have on him.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)know they have the United States Supreme Court in their pockets.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)The primary and more important argument they make is that Congress cannot obtain grand jury materials under FRCrP 6(e) because impeachment isn't a "judicial proceeding" or even a procedure preliminary to a judicial procedure.
They go on to argue, in the alternative, that even if impeachment is a judicial proceeding, the Democrats aren't really conducting an impeachment inquiry because the public messaging hasn't been clear.
Not only are both of these arguments ba, the first one particularly is very troubling since they're arguing that Congress can NEVER get grand jury materials, despite decades of precedent.
Takket
(21,421 posts)we can't hold impeachment proceedings without the proof but we can't have the proof unless it is an impeachment proceeding......
triron
(21,914 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Implies that there is nothing ironclad already.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)proof is there.