Wow! Scaramucci is sounding the alarm on Trump.

...who on either side of any issue gives a fuck what the Mooch thinks?

Any GOPer, especially one who previously worked for Trump, and speaks out about his danger should be listened to. Nothing changes until there is a critical mass of people who agree.

This:

Any GOPer, especially one who previously worked for Trump, and speaks out about his danger should be listened to. Nothing changes until there is a critical mass of people who agree

is absolutely imperative! The more GOP'ers speak out against Donald Trump's policies, the better off we'll be, on the whole, as a country. The fact that Scaramucci spoke out against him publicly is a great start, but more people need to do that.

Sorry, didn't mean to pylon

and, that means he might know things.

Surprisingly, I didn't realize until recently that Scaramucci has a law degree from Harvard

But I also dont think any republicans care about Scaramucci.

I don't like him. I don't think he is in any way a Democrat, or a progressive, or liberal. He's a self serving money grubbing right winger that would fall over backwards for any other Republican President.

But I respect his opinion. I will always remember his appearances on both Bill Maher's show and Stephen Colbert's, these last years. He was laughed at by Maher and the whole panel for saying about Trump's machinations, "It's working though". Much the same for Colbert. Personally, I don't know how one could not agree with the Mooch. Sure Trump is criticized daily on CNN and MSNBC, as well as the NYT and Washington Post, but they are being slowly but surely made obsolete to his supporters, and to all Republicans, and even Independents. Drip drip drip.

Even though lately his approval has dipped, he had being holding steady at about 44%. Republicans support him something like a whopping 90%. His slow drip dismantling of our institutions, seeding doubt in our law enforcement and intelligence agencies and major news media, seeding CT about secret Deep State (Democratic) control over those institutions.
He's filling each day with multiple lies, so much it's too much to counter back. So much that it fills his supporters, who are more like cult worshippers, with an overflow of disinformation to stoke their anger. Anger at a false threat of immigrants, gays, Muslims, brown people, Democratic socialism defined as dictatorial Communism. A threat so great that it makes what they see as Trump's flaws in manners and protocol, pale in comparison.

Trump has been very successful.
He has garnered the backing of the White Supremacist movement and those that never would have skirted with those notions before, but with a President that says "Good people both sides" It gives them a sense of courage and it stirs up any latent racist thoughts,

The Christian evangelicals who see a "King Percy" - a ruler who does not bow to God but is sent by God to appoint anti-choice judges across the land. And Christianity has a lot of power in America, despite the made up "war on Christianity". Every major event has some kind of tip of the hat to the Christian version of God. The military are brought up in it.

The billionaire class who are happy with scooping up even more from the treasury through tax breaks, and environmental regulations being dismantled. There may not be many of them but they have a lot of money to help him out with.

And last but not least, the "news" media. Not just Fox News, or even traditional RW radio, but the Trumpists have a huge presence on social media, on YouTube, Facebook. Add to that the trend now for us to go to sites and watch shows that we rely on to back up our own beliefs (One reason I go to DU every day). There is a whole swath of voters that simply do not believe ANYTHING traditional news sources say (other than Fox)

People are kidding themselves if they don't think Trump can win again. What he is doing IS working. Working not for us obviously, but for dumbing down of the American people, of scaring them. To his supporters he has "proved" he can govern. He has survived the Mueller "witch hunt". He is not cowed at all. He is more brash and bold than ever. Conservatives more than liberals idealize authoritarians, they love a "strong leader" even if he makes a "mistake" once in awhile. He has successfully "normalized" the idea of Trump as President to them.

People from our side underestimate the psychological erosion by the slow drip of doubt he is creating, and the sense that only himself, a strong leader who is the best at everything, can solve all their problems. Which is why it is imperative to start impeachment NOW. Who knows what more damage to the psychology of the nation he will have done in another year and a half. As a former reality TV star, he knows all he has to do is "outwit, outplay, outlast" until the November 2020 election is over. Scaramucci's warnings should not be dismissed so lightly.

I do not think Trump can win again if the elections are true. I think 2018 proves that he motivates our side to get out the vote at least as much as his and probably moreso. Further... approval #s in the low 40s wont get him there when 54% or so say they would vote for anyone but Trump. His approval #s have been steady despite the outlandish corruption and ineptitude, but that is not in his favor when they are this low.

Also I disagree that Scaramucci is sincerely warning anyone about anything. What he's doing is trying to give some republicans cover to put some distance between themselves and Trump because its pretty obvious Trump is a 2020 loser. Republicans problem is that too much of their base is tied to him and his unpredictability threatens to sink them all. He still claims that all Trumps policies including tax breaks for corporations that have exploded the debt were great, his attacks are directed at Trump the psychotic person not Trump's policies. And I don't think many Republicans are going to listen to him anyway so I'd argue that criticism from disingenuous Mooch is moot.

But we all know that the election will not be "true". Moscow Mitch has done hardly anything to secure them against a repeat of Trump trolls from both in the US and from Russia, as well as Israel and other places friendly to a RW world hegemony. Add to that voter suppression, gerrymandering and all the other tactics employed and approved by Republican state governors.

It is not about if Trump can win 51%, its if he can get to a reasonable enough margin that he can be pushed over the line by the cheating "bump".

I think I read people well, maybe I'm wrong, but in this instance I think the Mooch is not moot. I think the one thing he is sincere on is his belief that Trump is still succeeding...not with who we look at, but who Trump looks at.

And yes, the Mooch loves Trumps corporate tax breaks, but any Republican would do the same. Trump is not special in that regard. It is precisely BECAUSE Scaramucci is so loyal to the ideals of Republicanism and corporatism, and wants those ideals to ultimately succeed, that he wants Trump out. Trump, he rightly sees, will be a millstone for Republicans in time, and so too their agenda.

Repugs can't win a true election they must cheat like hell, they ARE in the minority.

and Michael Steele said that if the election were held today tRump would win. I agree with them. Moore's reasoning is that he gets away with everything! He is an evil salesman that somehow has been able to do this for three years. Don't underestimate what be can and will continue to do to survive. We have to have a 12 point lead going into the election to even out all the cheating that the GOP, Putin, etc will do to win. The Mooch knows this well.

Democrats needed to be swift and ruthless and announce impeachment either just after the Mueller report, or after Barr was found out to have mislead the public about Muellers findings, and Mueller wrote his letter of disagreement. We all know that the GOP, the RW media and even it turns out the MSM news would try and frame the narrative in Trump's favour, or turn it back on Democrats, as somehow it was a fault of their's that Mueller didn't come down harder.

They should have, could have, shaped that narrative themselves. That the Mueller report far from exonerating Trump, was damming, and more than enough to warrant impeachment, along with his other crimes and misdemeanours. Even if they have to feign anger. Pretend to care. Its up to Democrats to show up, be passionate, be singularly united in believing that more was needed than more strongly worded letters. But no, they allowed the MSM to define Democrats as spiit on the issue, as weak, as defeated.

It is now "common knowledge" that Mueller found nothing. That it was a waste of time and money. And that its in the past, and its too late to use Mueller's report now. Not saying that's all true, but its become "common knowledge".

Democrats blew their chance for the prime opportunity time. That's why I don't believe Nancy and Chuck will ever allow impeachment, and have never wanted it. They are firm on their belief that Democrats can beat him at the ballot box in 2020 and that that would be the safe conservative way to get back the WH. Personally I think they are playing with fire.

They blew it, just like I predicted. The Dems roll over and let everyone else create the narrative and we lose over and over and over. I am very disappointed in my party. They have not learned their lesson for over 20 years so they likely never will. We are screwed and they are being weak as usual. Bill Maher has been saying this and is as frustrated as I am. Now I will probably get alerted by the DU jury that I am not supporting our party. Whatever.....

I completely agree with everything you said.

Scareusmucho!!

NOW!

Impeach the treasonous MF

I’d figured out everything but the extra “t”. Thanks for the clarification!

Also, Rachel had some pointed Russia this week; Intel extricating a valuable inner Kremlin source because of trump; Doonesbury today picking up on the buzz

The only way Trump can survive is through impeachment.
The G.O.P. is trying to get this card played.

We impeach him in the House and they CLEAR him in the Senate. This is thier only play.

it’s more likely he will survive by winning in 2020 if we don’t impeach. He and the GOP will claim it — the whole Russia and any other investigation(s) — was all a political sham if we don’t impeach.

we'll end up with Mike Pence at the helm, who, while he's not necessarily any smarter, is somewhat saner than Donald Trump. Because Mike Pence is an ultra-rightwing religious ideologue, he'd be just as much, if not more of a danger than Donald Trump is.

That is not the point of impeaching Trump. It is to do the constitutional duty of congress.

That is not the point of impeaching Trump. It is to do the constitutional duty of congress.

but we'd still end up with Mike Pence as POTUS, who'd be just as bad, if not worse than Donald Trump, because he's an ultra-rightwing religious ideologue, who'd be even more likely to really take the United States, as a country, over that cliff.

And the Republicans run a Romney/Haley ticket that isn't tied to Trump.

Pelosi wants him on the ticket to help get the Senate

... the Republican Party base that simply will not support any candidate not named trump. That’s the problem they have. They need those voters to win in primaries and red states, so they bow down to trump to get them. If the math ever starts to work against that equation because traditional republicans can no longer hold their nose and vote for him, he’s out - because the trumpers alone are not enough to win most elections.

However. That also means that the party is split. Running Romney and Haley might get the traditionalists on board, but huge chunks of trumpers would leave the party or stay home.

They fed the crazies red meat for 4 decades, but they still ran traditional cereal (at least for national offices). Then trump came along and galvanized a bunch of the red meat eaters into the basket of Deplorables- and they’re not going back to cereal any time soon. The republican powers that be are trying to balance these two groups, but it’s getting harder to keep it from tipping toward true insanity.

I’m really most afraid they’ll find a trump-like candidate who’s not also an embarrassing asshole. I think - and this sounds nuts - we’re lucky trump is such a trump. Can you imagine where we might be today if their prez was someone who thinks like trump but, instead of being a bloviating fool, was smooth, polished and charming in his/her presentation?

Data comes in there will be a steady flow of damning direct illegal financial crimes that among other things will trigger grand jury action by state prosecutors.

The fact is that the interests of the donor class for the Republicans simply don't share a level of support for Trump.

Romney has already announced that he isn't endorsing Trump in 2020, a sign I think that the traditional donors are going to hold back.

Business leaders know that they can make excellent profits under Democratic leadership, they just can't get the special exclusive benefits they can with the Republicans. They would rather have stability, even with higher taxes than daily chaos.

The lower class voters will not abandon Trump but they are not going to fund Senate campaigns either. This conflict has already become an issue with WinRed, the WH effort to monopolize the fund raising. Republican Senators and Congressmen are simply not going along.

Republican Senators are going to be compliant only through the primaries and then they will be committed to their own self intetest.

... the $ angle. The donor class has put up with him (and his magats) to get those special benefits you mentioned. But you’re right, he has brought too much chaos and instability to the circus, and I suspect their support will be luke warm in 2020.

I was thinking more in terms of who might vote for him in 2020 v who might vote for a more traditional republican candidate. The Rs still have to GOTV somehow.

trump swelled the republican rolls. I believe this has been under appreciated. I’ve posted before about the record voter registrations in 2016 in Alabama. CW says that’s usually good for democrats, but this time it happened in all the wrong counties. I think these new voters were previously disengaged deplorables who signed up just to vote for trump. And I suspect this occurred in many other states to a varying degree. They have been in the weeds for decades waiting for someone to dog whistle them out. He did. I also think they are the reason his polls stay higher than logic and historical patterns would suggest. They are the quintessential “he owns the libs” voters, they were mostly new to the game, and they tipped the scale more than we think.

These people will not have any passion for someone like Romney. They will only vote for someone like trump. I think what we have seen over the last three years is the republican party trying to figure out how to harness them and keep their votes without their general shitty-ness running off the mainstream republican voter. It’s approaching critical mass as he gets crazier and crazier.

And secondly she knows its now running the GOP clock out being able to replace trump before the election. She knows that trump and his administration will be exposed so much that his election chances are gone, and his resignation is likely . Trump will try to, by declaration , and by using a possible staged event, may try to call off the elections stating his made up false facts like he's claimed of election fraud . He will just try to bypass both Congress and the Supreme Court, realizing its his last hope or he'll lose power, and putin will continue to steer him into doing things to weaken our Democracy, because he's so compromised from all his crimes and actions. Pelosi knows the information will cripple trump and the GOP, and as it gets closer watch as more gets exposed, a lot more. The GOP know this too and will help force him out of office,eventually, or their party is done.

They're doing this regardless of what the Dems do. There is no way in hell that McConnell is going to bring an impeachment vote to the Senate floor. No. Damn. Way.

He is obligated (constitutionally)to bring impeachments to trial.

Article I, Section 2:

The House of Representatives shall choose their speaker and other officers; and shall have the sole power of impeachment.

Article I, Section 3:

The Senate shall have the sole power to try all impeachments. When sitting for that purpose, they shall be on oath or affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no person shall be convicted without the concurrence of two thirds of the members present.

Article II, Section 4:

The President, Vice President and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.

The Constitution does not say, "The Senate shall try all impeachments."

always a sham. If they had anything even close to legitimate they would have impeached. They didn’t because there wasn’t.”

A steady cadence of revelations which was put right in the face of people who don't really pay much attention to politics.

Failure to start that drumbeat will do two really negative things: 1) reinforce the trope that Democrats won't fight to save their lives and decide everything by sticking a finger in the wind, and 2) congressional and state Republicans won't be sweating whether their backing Trump at every turn will bite them in the ass.

Nixon wasn't impeached. He resigned.

...the House would have been impeached him and the Senate almost certainly would have voted to remove him because the hearings shifted public opinion so they couldn't ignore it.

He preferred to go down in history as the first US president to resign from office instead of the first to be removed.

And Ford lost the following election.

It's not a "but, then again" situation.

we're supposed to let the country go to hell while Nancy relies on a hunch? KNOWING Russia will be meddling in the election again?

is taken down with 45 and she can't look like that is her primary motive for pushing impeachment. Who knows, taking down both at the same time is a still a possibility although remote----and who knows what she knows?

My thinking exactly.

the Republican party are a threat to national security.

too little too late

I'm glad he did. I do believe in redemption for those who make amends for their actions. Yes it was a little late, but at least he spoke up. He's still a self serving jerk.

I'm glad that he finally saw the light, but I still blame him and his ilk for helping Trump get elected. Either he was lying before, or just a completely awful judge of character, but either way he shouldn't be allowed take credit for finally admitting the truth.

I totally disagree with both of you here! Any Republican(s) who have the guts, the gumption and the courage to speak out against what Donald Trump's been doing deserve(s) respect, whether you like them or not.

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So what if Scaramucci was just responding/replying to Abramson's tweet? What matters is the fact that Scaramucci spoke out, and that's what counts.

glorify him for couple of years and then let’s sound the alarm like he just suddenly became dangerous. I don’t feel sorry for folks like the mooch who put his family in danger and now that he is a victim...He deserved every ounce of it unlike those who’ve been actively resisting the domestic terrorist and white supremacist in the oval office.

He would likely resign if he could get assurance he wouldn't pursued criminally afterwards. The House doesn't even have to have a trial in the Senate. If they want - they can impose a Guilty verdict on him that will not remove him from office.

But impeaching Trump without him being removed from office isn't going to sway one single person who was going to vote for a Democrat for President to instead vote for Trump.

Like others have pointed out - Trump and the GOP are going to spin this as a win for them anyway.

Let the GOP be seen defending a hardened criminal and endangering our Democracy with a compromised traitorous "President"!

him than to help him. But to me this will only kick in when articles of impeachment are written and published. A simple cumulative and concise list of crimes that the world can see. And Nadler hasn't promised that to us yet.

Personally it's hard to imagine you could proceed in an effective way with investigation without an outline or draft of Articles and stick with the same subject. We'll see soon if the investigations take on more form and organization.

He’s preaching to the choir here.