Sat Sep 14, 2019, 12:24 PM

shockey80 (4,379 posts)

Roughly, 60% of the people want Trump out of office. Less than 50% want him impeached?

That is the number the Democrats must change, so far they have had little success. For there to be any chance of impeaching Trump the Democrats must get that number up to around 60%.

If that happens you would see Moscow Mitch start to panic. Moscow Mitch does not care about anyone or anything except keeping control of the Senate. If 60% of the people wanted Trump impeached, a vote not to convict in the Senate could cost the Republicans the Senate. Moscow Mitch could turn on Trump.

I believe we all should be asking ourselves these very important questions when it comes to impeaching the Traitor.

What are the possible catastrophic consequences of not impeaching a Traitor and will simply voting Trump out of office remove the possibility of the catastrophic consequences? I have big doubts.

Why are the Democrats not warning and scaring the shit of the American people about the possibility of catastrophic consequences in not impeaching Trump? Do they believe voting Trump out will fix what he has done? I hope not.

By definition Trump is a Traitor. He went along with our enemy in an attack on our election. Trump is the most corrupt President in our history. He has shit all over the constitution and is trying to undo our Democracy. Should his punishment for all of this be we vote him out?

If that is the punishment for all he has done, will that not set precedent for all future Presidents. They will be able to do what he did and their biggest worry would be losing an election.

If Trump is not impeached the Emollients Clause becomes worthless. If he is not impeached all future Presidents will search for an AG who will obstruct any investigation. Obstruction of justice will no longer apply to the President.

Everything Trump has done will become the norm. I do not believe most Americans understand this. I believe most Americans, including Democrats in congress believe voting Trump out will solve what he has done.

Sometimes I feel like most Americans have lost touch with reality and the only thing that will cure them is a catastrophic event that hurts all of us badly. History shows us sometimes that's what it takes. I hope the American people wake up and demand Trump is impeached before something like that happens.

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Roughly, 60% of the people want Trump out of office. Less than 50% want him impeached? (Original post)	shockey80	Sep 2019	OP
Red Don has Nixon impeachment numbers post Saturday Night Massacre. The impeachment numbers	uponit7771	Sep 2019	#1
I hope you are right.	shockey80	Sep 2019	#5
That, is really what needs to happen IMO as it will provide a lot of focus on his criminality and	RKP5637	Sep 2019	#8
All in how it is asked. I can readily imagine 50% of more absolutely terrified of anything that ...	hlthe2b	Sep 2019	#2
.	raging moderate	Sep 2019	#3
I hear you, close enough.	shockey80	Sep 2019	#7
Less than 50% want him impeached because the media has done an excellent good job	Snake Plissken	Sep 2019	#4
Question the numbers.	elleng	Sep 2019	#6
The republicans or the American people as a whole must get him out,	Baked Potato	Sep 2019	#9
if he is not impeached and this all turns south blame NANCY PELOSI	not_the_one	Sep 2019	#10
I see no scenario in which tRump willingly relinquishes power, none.	Brawndo	Sep 2019	#11

Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Sat Sep 14, 2019, 12:32 PM

uponit7771 (88,609 posts)

1. Red Don has Nixon impeachment numbers post Saturday Night Massacre. The impeachment numbers

... for Trump are pretty high relatively speaking seeing there hasn't been a SNM event yet in the Trump admin.

People will increase their want to get the crook out of office once the evidence is heard

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #1)

Sat Sep 14, 2019, 12:37 PM

shockey80 (4,379 posts)

5. I hope you are right.

We should know by the end of this year after the promised open hearings by the Democrats.

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Response to shockey80 (Reply #5)

Sat Sep 14, 2019, 01:10 PM

RKP5637 (64,859 posts)

8. That, is really what needs to happen IMO as it will provide a lot of focus on his criminality and

the rest of his outrageous behavior. To date, people that loosely follow all of this hear a lot that is going on, and in different ways depending on what MSM they follow. However, this will give traction and focus to it all IMO.

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Sat Sep 14, 2019, 12:35 PM

hlthe2b (96,455 posts)

2. All in how it is asked. I can readily imagine 50% of more absolutely terrified of anything that ...

could backfire and end up in his being reelected. That said, if you asked them if he DESERVED to be impeached and removed, I'd bet the result would be absolutely overwhelmingly yes.

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Sat Sep 14, 2019, 12:36 PM

raging moderate (3,693 posts)

3. .

Er, that is emoluments.

Sorry, I tried to DU mail you, but apparently the virus/defect will no longer allow me to do that.

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Response to raging moderate (Reply #3)

Sat Sep 14, 2019, 12:44 PM

shockey80 (4,379 posts)

7. I hear you, close enough.

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Sat Sep 14, 2019, 12:36 PM

Snake Plissken (4,103 posts)

4. Less than 50% want him impeached because the media has done an excellent good job

of sheltering the public from Trump's mountain of scandals, the media is too busy chasing Trump's Twitter laser pointer like a herd of cats to report the news.

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Sat Sep 14, 2019, 12:42 PM

elleng (122,738 posts)

6. Question the numbers.

60% 50%

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Sat Sep 14, 2019, 01:20 PM

Baked Potato (7,350 posts)

9. The republicans or the American people as a whole must get him out,

... not just the Democrats. With trump constantly muddying the waters and calling everything fake, the overall evidence against him must be overwhelming. It must be iron clad and withstand scrutiny like we’ve never seen. We are up against the most evil and well funded enemies ever to threaten our democracy.

Nancy Pelosi and our Democratic leadership are letting the republicans slowly kill them selves. The Democrats can’t be seen as taking out their savior. There would be civil unrest that would disrupt the process and stifle any attempt to remove trump. Only until the senior republican leadership in the Senate turns will there be any movement against trump. That won’t happen until trump is fully exposed for what he is: A self dealing enabler and member of organized crime. And a traitor of the worst kind.

The dam is getting pushed on very hard by goodness and justice. The dam will break and Americans will see the righteous, cleansing waters of justice push out the foul, festering glob of crime and hate, that which is trump inc.

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Sat Sep 14, 2019, 01:34 PM

not_the_one (2,227 posts)

10. if he is not impeached and this all turns south blame NANCY PELOSI

She alone has kept REAL impeachment from happening because she is a coward, desperate to keep control of a party that is rapidly getting fed up with old, failed tactics.

Democrats either need to do the right thing, or we do the wrong thing. Simple. Cut and dried.

If she wants my loyalty she is going to have to earn it. This is the last election where I will obediently follow...

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Sat Sep 14, 2019, 01:57 PM

Brawndo (535 posts)

11. I see no scenario in which tRump willingly relinquishes power, none.

Illegally stealing or cancelling the election, declaration of martial law, appeals to his cult to use violence, all are possible with this monster who thinks himself a king. By all means GOTV but bet heavily on needing a Plan-B.

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