Will Trump be the first ex president indicted, tried and jailed?

[Cyrano]

Okay, I get the ten tons of bullshit of why a sitting, insane president can't be held responsible.

But once he's an ex president, will the Democrats, or any state attorney generals, hold him answerable for any and all crimes he's committed?

I don't hold out much hope for the Democratic Party bringing him to justice. All that would matter to them is that if they held him responsible for his crimes against the Constitution and humanity (dead children on the border), is that the next time we have a Dem president and a Republican controlled congress, is that they'd seek vengeance beyond imagination.

But that shouldn't restrain the AGs of NY, Virginia, and elsewhere from bringing charges against Trump for his financial crimes. (There are drug dealers in jail for 25 years or more because of money laundering crimes.)

Al Capone was convicted on tax evasion and died in jail. IMO, Trump makes Capone look like an amateur.

[patricia92243]

1. No

[Sneederbunk]

29. +1

[Abnredleg]

51. +2

[blueinredohio]

58. +3

[Iliyah]

2. I'm keeping the faith - YES.

[Andy823]

3. I sure hope so.

Tax payers want the money back he has been funneling into his own pocket as well.

[sharedvalues]

24. It's in our hands. Canvass. Organize. Vote

Go to Indivisible meetings.
Call your reps.

It’s not about hope. It’s about EFFORT.

If you want him punished, work for it. And vote.

[Karadeniz]

4. Hope springs eternal!

[jrthin]

5. Yes. At least I hope so. nt

[FakeNoose]

6. Yes, but it may not be Congress that drives it

I think it's more likely that New York State will be the national hero, when all is said and done.

[Crabby Appleton]

7. No

[spanone]

8. George W. Bush - 0 consequences for Iraq War.

The rationale: Weapons of Mass Destruction.
There were no Weapons of Mass Destruction.
OOPS!

460,000

460,000 deaths in Iraq as direct or indirect result of the war including more than 60% of deaths directly attributable to violence. Overview: Iraqi death estimates by source Summary of casualties of the Iraq War.

Casualties of the Iraq War - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War

[Cyrano]

9. So no matter how hard the founding father's tried

it turns out that any and all presidents have replaced the king they threw out.

[RKP5637]

13. And zillions of dollars wasted! n/t

[CloudWatcher]

35. And Obama just wanted to look forward

In my book everyone that voted for the Iraq war should have been charged with war crimes.

[Ahpook]

61. And not a peep

This country has failed in numerous ways.

Disgusting!

[D_Master81]

10. Yes and no

Yes I think he will get tried, but due to age and fame he will only get house arrest or something like that.

[jcgoldie]

11. Where you going to find 12 objective jurors to convict...

...without a Magat red hat living in fox news world to hang it when 40% of the country approves of the criminal's presidency?

[sharedvalues]

23. Any city.

DC. NY. Boston. Chicago. LA. Seattle. Houston. Portland.

We just had the biggest midterm popular vote landslide in a century. Far more people hate him tha like him.

[sarisataka]

44. I think there is some fuzziness

On the meaning of the word 'objective.'

[RKP5637]

12. One would think so, but anymore it seems they do what they damn well please with

minimal repercussions.

[struggle4progress]

14. Didn't he promise to shoot himself on Fifth Avenue?

[Cyrano]

15. He never keeps his promises

[struggle4progress]

17. I guess I'll just have to keep asking about this

[GeorgeGist]

16. Yes, if Sheldon Whitehouse is Attorney General.

[Kablooie]

18. I hope so but don't expect it.

Trump has been able to avoid any real legal consequences from his constant criminal activities his whole life.
It may be too much to expect he will not be able to skate around these too.
I expect he will be dead before any legal system actually sentences him.

[donco]

19. In addition

to his family (son,son in law).

[Skittles]

20. no one is going to do ANYTHING

they let Bush INC lie themselves into WARS

[sharedvalues]

22. It's in your hands. Canvass. Organize. Vote.

[Skittles]

26. it shouldn't be in MY hands

we DO THOSE THINGS, we canvas, we vote...... but.....for example, who was held responsible for crashing the economy in 2008?

NOTHING happens.

[sharedvalues]

63. The best resistance is positive persistence

It shouldn’t be on us, but it is. We are the citizens of this nation and we must unite to take our country back from the billionaires that control it right now.

[sharedvalues]

21. If we do our jobs as Americans yes

[lunatica]

25. There's no reason why not

Prosecutors aren’t going to tremble with political issues like politicians do. Prosecutors who go after criminals have the full weight of the law backing them and prosecuting is the be all, the end all, the bare bones essence of their jobs. They have the legal obligation to bring criminals to justice.

[Poiuyt]

27. Should he be? Yes! Will he be? No

It would be too scandalous for us as a country to have to admit that we had a felon as a president. After all, that's the type of thing that happens in third world countries, not the great United States!

It reminds me of when Gerald Ford pardoned Nixon—he didn't want the country to be in turmoil for the next 10 years. Even though Trump is hated by many people and is no doubt guilty of many crimes, I can't imagine that any justice department would bring up charges.

[rockfordfile]

38. That was a big mistake. That's why we got Trump.

[EmeraldCoaster]

28. Yes

I have been saying this since before the election. For years
it was clear to me the man was a crook.

[USALiberal]

30. no, nt

[madamesilverspurs]

31. Only if there's anything meaningful left of DOJ

once Barr gets done with it.



.

[ehrnst]

32. Unless I'm mistaken, that's a job for the AG of the US.

I definitely see Kamala Harris, should she not get the nomination, as a fantastic choice that would proscecute the fuck out of that predator.

[Takket]

34. Sally Yates is someone I'd love to see get that job too.

[ehrnst]

60. Oh, yeah. However, I have to wonder if she will be called to recuse herself

from investigating/prosecuting the POTUS who fired her.

[avebury]

33. Perhaps the State of NY will succeed where it appears

that the Democrats cannot. They are pretty open about investigating Trump, his family and his businesses.

[onethatcares]

36. no, the Bizarro cartoon in todays

Tampa Bay times even says why.

There's a pic of an elevator operator holding the handle to a door that says "Ellis Island, First Class Enterance". Above that is a sign that says: "Welcome to AMERICA,
Keeping the wealthy out of
prison for over 200 years"


As Carlin said, "It's a big club and we aren't in it".

[Ligyron]

46. Actually, it's a rather small club if you think about it.

And getting smaller proportionally all the time.

Love Carlin but always thought that needed fixing.

[CloudWatcher]

37. Ford's Pardon of Nixon

Ford's pardon of Nixon has done incalculable damage to the rule of law in this country.

[Vinca]

39. I wish every candidate would be asked if they would pardon Trump.

We need to get the "no ways" on the record.

[SCVDem]

45. Yes, please ask them!

We all could use a good laugh as they all say HELL NO!!!

Watch their first reaction when they hear the question. It should be great!

[rockfordfile]

40. Yes. If not, then the democrats will be wiped. It makes them guilty of his treason

They will have zero credibility

[beastie boy]

41. Trump has made a lot of enemies in New York.

It is unlikely that he gets indicted on federal charges, and even if he does, there is historical precedent that he might get pardoned. Not for his sake, but for the sake of the Office of the President.

State charges, on the other hand... But even there he has a good chance of being found not guilty for reasons of insanity.

[sarisataka]

42. Doubtful

And how do "the Democrats" hold him responsible once he is out of office? Is the some sort of Democratic police force I am unaware of?

[bearsfootball516]

43. No.

[Thekaspervote]

47. I wish but really doubt it. I do think he and his ilk may end up financially ruined.

In a way, that could be better karma than jail

[DinahMoeHum]

49. "The best way you hurt rich people. . .

. . .is by turning them into poor people"


- Billy Ray Valentine (Eddie Murphy) in Trading Places

[Laura PourMeADrink]

48. Sadly no

[SWBTATTReg]

50. Yes. Being a national security risk constantly, the only safe place w/ the way his mind ...

is collapsing is in jail.

[Hoyt]

52. Nope. Any jury will have a few white wingers to hang it.

I doubt any prosecutor will indict him for anything that we know now related to his cruddy presidency.

Could make an exception for trump, but I’m not sure it is a good idea to go after Presidents after leaving office. I think that could be abused. Again, trump might be an excuse. Throw them out of office.

[Buckeyeblue]

53. Probably not.

Things that happened while he was president will not be pursued. If New York finds something from before he was president he will be allowed to plea out and probably just pay a fine. That's the reality.

And honestly, the next president will not want to have to deal with Trump's legal problems dominating the news cycle.

[MyMission]

54. He'd be the only president to achieve that!

The best most important, and ONLY president to "accomplish" that. If he was incarcerated, he'd spin it like that. Would love to see it happen, but best odds are 50/50.

Or maybe he'll flee the country, escape to
Russia
North Korea
Brazil
Other foreign lands run by his favorite dictators
Or maybe he'll hide in Alabama.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

55. If only.

Justice for all has always been a myth and now moreso than ever, I fear.

[ooky]

56. No. The coward won't be in the country on inauguration day

or anytime thereafter. He be gone to his new home where he can avoid prosecution.

[Norbert]

57. I hope so.

But this is why I don't think he will go quietly if he loses next year. I could see him resigning some time between election day and Inauguration Day so that Pence could do a comprehensive pardon of tRump.

[COLGATE4]

59. As we used to say in my Legal Department

NFW

[NNadir]

62. If we care about the rule of law, yes. n/t

[scarytomcat]

64. NO

We don't jail Presidents. He will get a pass.