Sat Sep 14, 2019, 05:31 PM
Dennis Donovan (18,761 posts)
The attack on the Saudi Oil Fields...
There's something off about the event. "Off" as in Odd. The Houthi rebels supposedly never had, nor were close to, the capability displayed in this attack **until** this attack.
Trump plays good cop to Bolton's bad cop in regards to Iran (giving a false sense of security to opponents of SA in Yemen). But the Houthis supposedly pull off a "Pearl Harbor" attack on the Saudis oil fields, when they hadn't been able to before. There's something smelly here. ![]()
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Dennis Donovan | Sep 2019 | OP |
pbmus | Sep 2019 | #1 | |
jpak | Sep 2019 | #6 | |
RockRaven | Sep 2019 | #2 | |
KY_EnviroGuy | Sep 2019 | #3 | |
dhol82 | Sep 2019 | #4 | |
czarjak | Sep 2019 | #7 | |
FBaggins | Sep 2019 | #8 | |
jpak | Sep 2019 | #5 | |
moondust | Sep 2019 | #9 | |
spanone | Sep 2019 | #10 |
Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 05:37 PM
pbmus (12,392 posts)
1. 5% of oil production, not exactly pearl...and back up in less than a week..
Last edited Sat Sep 14, 2019, 06:29 PM - Edit history (1) But, I agree, almost everything in that part of the world is fishy...
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Response to pbmus (Reply #1)
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 06:12 PM
jpak (41,354 posts)
6. 50% of their oil refinery production, 5% global
n/t
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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 05:56 PM
RockRaven (12,336 posts)
2. Consider... Trump ditched pro-war Bolton and signals he wants to bribe Iran to give him a deal --
which will be WEAKER than the Obama deal he ditched simply because it was Obama's (which, btw, the Saudis, other gulf states, and Isrealis all opposed for being too soft) -- so given the circumstances above, who benefits from the Saudis being attacked by this method at this time?
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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 06:01 PM
KY_EnviroGuy (14,242 posts)
3. Summary of significant Houthi missile and drone attacks....
Timeline: Houthis' drone and missile attacks on Saudi targets
Houthis step up attacks on Saudi sites in what they call retaliation for Saudi-led bombing of Yemen's rebel-held areas. Read here: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/09/timeline-houthis-drone-missile-attacks-saudi-targets-190914102845479.html (snips) For more than four years, Yemen has been ravaged by a war between the Houthi rebels and the internationally-recognised government backed by a military coalition led by Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates (UAE).
The conflict has killed tens of thousands of people, thrust millions to the brink of famine and spawned the world's most devastating humanitarian crisis. With logistical support from the United States, the Saudi-UAE-led coalition has carried out more than 18,000 raids on Houthi-held areas in an attempt to reverse their gains. Human rights groups have criticised the alliance for targeting civilians at hospitals, schools and markets, while also condemning Western countries for providing it with arms. The Houthi rebels, on their part, have in recent months stepped up missile and drone attacks on Saudi targets. KY........ ![]() |
Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 06:08 PM
dhol82 (9,294 posts)
4. Now Pompeo is blaming the Iranians for the attack
Bastards are looking for a shooting war.
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Response to dhol82 (Reply #4)
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 06:22 PM
czarjak (8,811 posts)
7. Isn't that the only way for Jesus to return?
Response to dhol82 (Reply #4)
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 09:27 PM
FBaggins (25,621 posts)
8. He's probably right
The Houthis are surrogates of Iran and Iran definitely has the requisite drone capacity
They’ll directly benefit from the rising prices... plus it will pressure the administration to cut a deal |
Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 06:11 PM
jpak (41,354 posts)
5. I would wager the drones used in the attack were not DYI modified hobby drones
They most likely got them from "another party".
Israel thwarted a (supposed) attack by drones launched for Syria last month. Much to ponder...but, one thing for certain, someone torched a Saudi refinery with sophisticated military drones. |
Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 10:42 PM
moondust (19,024 posts)
9. Former U.S. military guest
on Al Jazeera just said previous Houthi drones had a maximum range of like 150 KM but this attack was more like 500. He naturally speculated it's Iranian drone technology.
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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 10:52 PM
spanone (133,334 posts)
10. NYTIMES: Two Major Saudi Oil Installations Hit by Drone Strike, and U.S. Blames Iran
Drone attacks claimed by Yemen’s Houthi rebels struck two key oil installations inside Saudi Arabia on Saturday, damaging facilities that process the vast majority of the country’s crude output and raising the risk of a disruption in world oil supplies.
The attacks immediately escalated tensions in the Persian Gulf amid a standoff between the United States and Iran, even as key questions remained unanswered — where the drones were launched from, and how the Houthis managed to hit facilities deep in Saudi territory, some 500 miles from Yemeni soil. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo accused Iran of being behind what he called “an unprecedented attack on the world’s energy supply” and asserted that there was “no evidence the attacks came from Yemen.” He did not, however, specify an alternative launch site, and the Saudis themselves refrained from pointing the finger directly at Iran. President Trump condemned the attack in a phone call with Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman and offered support for “Saudi Arabia’s self defense,” the White House said in a statement, adding that the United States “remains committed to ensuring global oil markets are stable and well supplied.” https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/14/world/middleeast/saudi-arabia-refineries-drone-attack.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage |