healthcare is a human right

[questionseverything]

just for the record

[democratisphere]

1. Good luck with that one.

Certainly not in the crazy country of insane America.

[guillaumeb]

2. Not in the US.

FDR proposed an economic Bill of Rights.

The GOP opposed it.

[Skidmore]

3. I see no one disputing that.

The problems revolve around how to pay for the personnel, products, medicines, facilities, and services it takes to deliver quality services. It costs money. How will it be distributed? Rural services are in short supply, as are medical personnel. The same can be said for some urban areas. Not a simple thing.

[Blue_true]

5. Urban areas have PLENTY of high quality healthcare.

The country's best medical facilities are in urban areas. The poor areas of urban areas don't often have good healthcare, and that is a problem that the ACA tries to address.

[democratisphere]

7. No they don't. America's lousy quality of healthcare is the most expensive

In the world. Really makes a statement about one of the world's greatest criminal enterprises, American healthcare.

[Blue_true]

9. Yet people come from all over the world to get treated in our best hospitals.

If there is a child in dire straits in the world and the world rallies to try to save that child, there is an 85-90% chance the child gets flown to a USA Children's Hospital. Those are the realities on the ground.

Is healthcare here too expensive for the average person, yes, but that problem won't be solved by people making strident statements.

[democratisphere]

10. I will leave the facts to the experts.

The USA is an outrageously overpriced abomination when it comes to healthcare.

[Blue_true]

11. We have the best healthcare, but we also have the most expensive healthcare.

Our challenge as a society is how to remove expensive from the description. How to do that the best is what the debate is about in our primary.

[democratisphere]

12. The facts say differently.

https://www.internationalinsurance.com/health/systems/

[Joe941]

15. Are we getting what we pay for or is it overly expensive?

[Blue_true]

16. I recently had a series of routine checkups and labs.

My insurance covered it 100%. Any MEDs that I require seldom cost more than $30, I do maybe 3 scripts per year total. One of the unfortunate things is insurance plans are based upon models for patients like me, who don't require expensive procedures and hospitalization. The issue that is being debated in our primary is how to we shift the system so that it covers the true average American instead of some guy that falls on the tail of the bellcurve heathwise.

I recently went into my doctor's office for a routine procedure. There were lots of people in the waiting room before my procedure and when I came out. It was truly disheartening, I was physically decades younger physically when compared to people that are near my age. Why did this happen? What can we learn and apply from that? Those are some of the basic questions that we have to answer to make healthcare less expensive. The fact is, my insurance company easily makes money off of me because it is not paying out expensive claims. How to we get the majority of the population to that point and force insurance companies to use excess profits gained from healthy people to pay for care for those that aren't

[questionseverything]

17. somethings are too important to be left to capitalism,healthcare is one of those things

insurance companies only commitment is to their shareholders

[Blue_true]

18. We need to change that. The current primary debate is about how to best do that. nt

[malaise]

4. The NRA doesn't think life is a human right

Thoughts and prayers is your only guarantee

[Blue_true]

6. No one argues against that. The debate is about how do we bring that end about. nt

[betsuni]

8. Democrats have been saying health care is a right, not a privilege since at least the '70s.

Republicans do not think so. That is the record.

[elocs]

13. Lots of things are human rights, but most people in the world don't have them all.

Saying something is a human right does not in reality make it one.

[Joe941]

14. And as such even those unable to afford should get it for free.