NYT: "We also uncovered a previously unreported story about Mr. Kavanaugh in his freshman year"

[Miles Archer]

Deborah Ramirez had the grades to go to Yale in 1983. But she wasn’t prepared for what she’d find there.

During the winter of her freshman year, a drunken dormitory party unsettled her deeply. She and some classmates had been drinking heavily when, she says, a freshman named Brett Kavanaugh pulled down his pants and thrust his penis at her, prompting her to swat it away and inadvertently touch it. Some of the onlookers, who had been passing around a fake penis earlier in the evening, laughed.

We also uncovered a previously unreported story about Mr. Kavanaugh in his freshman year that echoes Ms. Ramirez’s allegation. A classmate, Max Stier, saw Mr. Kavanaugh with his pants down at a different drunken dorm party, where friends pushed his penis into the hand of a female student. Mr. Stier, who runs a nonprofit organization in Washington, notified senators and the F.B.I. about this account, but the F.B.I. did not investigate and Mr. Stier has declined to discuss it publicly. (We corroborated the story with two officials who have communicated with Mr. Stier.)

Mr. Kavanaugh did not speak to us because we could not agree on terms for an interview. But he has denied Dr. Ford’s and Ms. Ramirez’s allegations, and declined to answer our questions about Mr. Stier’s account.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/14/sunday-review/brett-kavanaugh-deborah-ramirez-yale.html

[JI7]

1. another one we need to get rid of

[NNadir]

20. Lying to Congress is an impeachable offense. n/t.

[trueblue2007]

24. impeach the drunk judge

[ehrnst]

34. Now? While DT can replace him?

[struggle4progress]

2. "What can I say? I like beer! Nyuk nyuk nyuk!"

[TheBlackAdder]

44. Boofo the Supreme Court Judge (Kinko the "Kid-Loving" Clown song parody--remember Dr. Demento?)

.

A song parody with kick ass lyrics, written on its YouTube post.

Here's just a snippet:

Lyrics:
Boofo, Boofo, the Supreme Court Judge
Everyone hates Buffo, but he’ll never hold a GRUDGE
Boofo, Boofo, the Supreme Court Judge
Little rough at parties, Wouldn’t even think to BUDGE
Shut up you little tease, Turn up the volume

Boofo he inherits Justice Roberts’ legacy
Sitting on judicial complaints except from Donny T.
Ladies, wire coat hangers, what else do you see?
He loves the idea so much, He’ll buy the company.

.

[Ligyron]

61. Dr Demento!

That brings back memories. Prolly long gone by now but I'm on the east coast so it's hard to confirm.

[Dirty Socialist]

80. Tar and feather Kinko Kavanaugh

And run him out of town

[MontanaMama]

3. If only karma

would have her way with Judge Boof.

[triron]

4. This was report before Kavanaugh was confirmed.

[Ilsa]

6. I remember it also.

Sure, it is college youth stupidity, but it crosses the line and becomes assault when you force others to touch your genitalia.

[Miles Archer]

7. I went by today's date on the article.

Don't know what to tell you. It's the NYT, and if the statement is incorrect, it's incorrect. I don't have time tonight to fact-check it. I'm not being sarcastic, I literally do not have time tonight, so if you have a source, please feel free to add it to this post. It showed up in a tweet about 10 minutes ago, I went to NYT, did my post, and that's what happened.

[soldierant]

13. It's half and half

just as stated in the article. The Ramirez allegation was reported before he was confirmed. The Stiers allegation is new. For those who did not catch that, you might want to read the quote again.

Miles's headline is not inaccurate.

[triron]

40. I didn't say anything about inaccuracy.

Basically I was referring to Ramirez and Ford allegations.
Stiers was corroborating.

[kag]

50. No.

Stier was telling a new story, not corroborating the Ramirez or Ford story. That's the whole point of the headline.

[dawg day]

51. Also Stier told the FBI...

And they didn't follow up. This sort of refusing to pursue and present allegations also happened in the Clarence Thomas case.

[triron]

59. That was just what I deduced from reading the article; perhaps it was on another event.

[intrepidity]

77. I think this is the money quote

A classmate, Max Stier, saw Mr. Kavanaugh with his pants down at a different drunken dorm party, where friends pushed his penis into the hand of a female student.

[LisaL]

36. No. The one about Ms. Ramirez was reported.

But similar story wasn't.

[BeyondGeography]

5. Sickening

We nominate a Boy Scout who can’t get a hearing and this certified piece of trash is on the bench for the next three-plus decades.

[Mr.Bill]

8. His liver won't last that long.

He was drunk off his ass the day of the televised hearings, if you ask me.

[Grokenstein]

11. Not to mention his furious temper when challenged.

We just have to keep poking him until he ruptures something vital. (cf., God Emperor Puppet Sharpie, Moscow Mitch.)

[StevieM]

21. I don't think he was drunk.

He just wanted to rally the GOP base around his baseless accusation of swift boating.

So he ranted like a lunatic, just like they wanted.

[True Blue American]

45. He was

And a couple of Guards said they smelled vodka. There is a smell, no matter what people tell you. I have smelled it at work.

His crying tantrum was a drunken one.

[woodsprite]

52. Wouldn't go by that. Cheney is still kicking. nt

[Mr.Bill]

64. Total waste of donor organs. n/t

[Kurt V.]

9. start to finish, his nomination/ appointment stunk of corruption. in a functioning democracy

this shouldn't happen. elected Republicans have so diseased our republic bc of they believe its every person for themselves, and thus every person is a mark.

[Baitball Blogger]

10. You have to wonder if these FBI agents have done similar things in their college years

to determine that these events were not worth investigating.

[Blue_true]

28. They were literally told by Trump and their superiors to whitewash the investigation.

The key is to get rid of Trump, people can piss and moan all they want about Speaker Pelosi not pushing impeachment, but the only way to get rid of Trump is to crush him electorally and leave no doubt, but if people get pissy because their choice was not nominated for President, we could lose when we should have easily won.

[Baitball Blogger]

38. The election process is not magic.

You still have to persuade the public. And to do that, you have to continue applying pressure to release the information they need to vote in the manner that will result in the way that would remedy this situation.

[Pompoy]

42. Rachael Maddow reported yesterday that they will be honored soon

The people that cleared Kavanaugh for a honor that usually goes to people who solved/prosecuted momentous cases.
Sorry, for speaking off the cuff, and not bringing more solid info with the particulars.

[Baitball Blogger]

57. It's beyond shameless. When their names do get exposed with that honor,

we should do background checks to see if they are Republicans.

I stopped believing that our US Attorney Office and the FBI are objective. I can now go back to the Clinton years to recognize that they lean Republican.

This needs to stop.

[not_the_one]

12. we need to be getting our ducks in a row to impeach Kavanaugh

and jail Bill Barr, after the tsunami.

[cwydro]

14. Lol, not likely.

But it’s nice to dream.

[True Blue American]

46. John Mitchell went to jail

Lest we forget. He was arrogant, too.

https://jacklimpert.com/2018/05/went-attorney-general-john-mitchell-went-to-prison-youre-just-a-convict-now-like-the-rest-of-us/

[Pepsidog]

15. Yes

[Blue_true]

29. I agree. We need to run real investigations and people that did crimes or ignored

Summons from Congress must go to jail.

[Karadeniz]

16. I sent emails to every relevant senator about this and how kavanaugh phoned former

Classmates to warn them to shut up if they got calls about his college behavior. Did no good.

[John1956PA]

43. I sent to Senator Toomey an email stating K was unfit because of his abuse of women and alcohol.

After the senate vote which confirmed K, Toomey did send to me a reply letter in which he brushed off the accusations against K.

[BadgerMom]

17. K & R

[Scurrilous]

18. ...

[moose65]

19. Whew

That whole frat boy culture that Kavanaugh’s hearing exposed is totally alien to me, and I’m a white male. I’m the same age as Kavanaugh, but definitely not from the same background. That rich boy, entitled culture makes my skin crawl.

[True Blue American]

47. College students

Are still dying on those fraternity hazings.

[NNadir]

22. Still funny...

[intrepidity]

79. Lol

Especially loved the Lindsay graham part

[spanone]

23. K&R...

[Blue_true]

31. That was good editing. nt

[greatauntoftriplets]

25. What a sleazebag.

[Dawson Leery]

26. Conservatism in all it's "glory".

Entitled to do as they please without consequence.

[dlk]

27. Just Another Entitled and Pervy Frat Boy

Kavanaugh is the last person who should be on the Supreme Court. He’s too twisted and partisan.

[kozar]

30. just an observation,

We all know this kind of situation absolutely sucks, hell, even most Rethugs would feel same. So why are we hearing about this now? We all knew about this Sick Kav during his hearings, we watched,read and knew then, so why now? I will say simply, do not be sucked in by supposedly "strong stories", they are nothing more than a distraction to generate strong responses. And when we lose our focus and react,, we are missing the big picture.. Stay Focused all, these kind of stories are just games,IMHO

Koz

[wildflower]

32. I'm not sure what you're trying to say

[LiberalFighter]

33. Something needs to be done about the Justice Dept

so they are independent of the President.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

35. you're gonna get Lindsey screaming again

[still_one]

37. Wtf, what excuse did the FBI USE FOR NOT INVESTIGATING THIS?

[DFW]

39. The Republicans were going to confirm him no matter what

They didn't care who he was or whom he raped. Susan Collins, Jeff Flake and all the "concern crowd" were never going to vote any other way.

He was a Republican nominee, and that was good enough for them.

Were the vote to be held today, there would be no difference in the outcome (McSally would have voted the way Flake did). Moscow Mitch would have gotten his boy in, no matter what he did.

[triron]

41. Half of America says it's ok to assault women and lie about as long as you vote

their way.

Link to tweet

[elocs]

48. Nothing left to do but shake your fist at the sky

because that ship has long since sailed.

[ooky]

56. For now.

He's on the Supreme Court for life. If we get both chambers of Congress and the White House back, we need to do a real investigation, and expose the full truth about him.

[ginnyinWI]

63. What I read is that he's on the federal bench for life, not the Supreme Court.

He could be kicked downstairs.
It was a tweet by Howard Dean. Sorry I don’t know how to paste it with my iPad.

[elocs]

73. How is somebody not on the Supreme Court for life??? n/t

[elocs]

74. If Dems don't defeat Trump next year it's all over anyways

and Kavanaugh will be the least of their problems.

[ooky]

84. No doubt.

[onetexan]

49. Kav's Yale history isn't going away like the repugs hoped

[lark]

53. Impeach the lying rapist.

Another important thing on th bucket list if Dems take over the presidency and the Senate.

[Hortensis]

54. Here's a big reason most agents don't quit:

https://www.cbp.gov/careers/usbp-pay-and-benefits

This is government work, paid by taxpayers, with the kind of benefits that once came with most jobs, but no more. The vast majority can't replace these incomes and benefits in the private sector. College degree is not required, though a little AA in criminal justice can help get hired over competition, and see the site and below for what draws competition.

Note on the pay chart the next grades above entry level, noncompetitive -- not bad at all for high school grads, and you move up just by being there.

13 to 26 days of annual leave accrued per year (variation based on years of Federal service)
10 Federal holidays per year
15 days of military reserve leave
13 days of sick leave accrued per year
Opportunities for paid training

They also, critically, work toward handsome retirement annuities, which would be lost if they quit. A 21-year-old who keeps his nose clean can retire if he chooses at either 41 or 46 with either a standard or augmented lifetime annuity. As the website puts it: "Employees that retire from CBP can count on the Federal Employees Retirement System (FERS) to enjoy life after working."

[Smackdown2019]

55. Impeachment!

We need a full 2/3 of Democrat controlled Senate to impeach. Let's do it in 2020!

[FBaggins]

81. Not really possible

Republicans would have to lose 19 seats... and they only have 23 running. A dozen of them aren’t considered to be even slightly competitive

[Gothmog]

58. trump is upset

Link to tweet

?

[jcgoldie]

68. "They are trying to influence his opinions..."

We can't have that. Those opinions have already been bought and paid for dammit!

[Proud Liberal Dem]

60. I'm glad

that there was a good and thorough investigation of Kavanaugh before he was confir.............oh right.

[Buckeyeblue]

62. If we win the presidency back we can start a campaign to shame

Kavanaugh into quiting. Thomas is getting old. He may want to retire to cash in. I forgot, his wife is cashing in for both of them.

[GETPLANING]

65. "Only criminals take the 5th."

Donald Trump

[MineralMan]

66. I remember being a freshman in college.

I don't remember, though, EVER pulling my penis out in public. I've never been that drunk or stupid. What the Hell?

Kavanaugh seems to have some sort of problem with self-control. It seems to date back to his prep school days and to his college days as well. Why is such a person sitting on the bench of the SCOTUS? Why is that even possible?

Let's demand better personal behavior on the part of our elected and appointed officials. Enough of this childish nonsense!

[jcgoldie]

69. Yeah and I really like beer

Somehow avoided raping anyone throughout my lifetime.

[MineralMan]

72. Well, I'm not a big fan of beer, but I still didn't rape anyone.

It's easy. You just don't do that.

[Vinca]

67. What's really troubling is you can imagine the guy doing it.

He totally came off as a boozed up rich kid who felt entitled to do anything to anyone.

[Progressive Jones]

70. The way to get rid of this punk is to

make his life miserable.

Never give up on pointing out what a loser/prick he is.
Non-stop public shaming.
Make his day-to-day life as difficult as possible
Then, drag him before Congress again, and cause him to melt down once more.

[Skidmore]

71. His preppy gang

is just as disgusting as he is.

[NCLefty]

75. Seems a little late now...

We can't get rid of him without the senate.

What a mess.

[thegoose]

76. Whatever

Dump is doing whatever he wants. Dig up all the shit you want. Ain't gonna change.

[NastyRiffraff]

78. Susan Collins is concerned

Very concerned. See her furrowed brow.

[walkingman]

82. Impeach him!

[bucolic_frolic]

83. It's a pattern

Link to tweet

A pattern too widespread and enduring to be ignored. Why does this happen? Is it kompromat, US style?