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once trump is impeached and/or defeated in the election? I mean with all the Mueller report info, self dealing/emolument clause violations just coming out and his/their failure to protect the country from foreign interference with our electionsMoscow Mitch?
These traitors, IMO, should not be allowed to just prance away into shame and obscurity for supporting and enabling this megalomaniacal lunatic who they know is unfit for the office.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,683 posts)Unfortunately.
Stinky The Clown
(67,798 posts)Yeah, I know . . . . Hitler.
Tell me the analogy is not apt.
DBoon
(22,363 posts)Julius Streicher (12 February 1885 16 October 1946) was a prominent member of the Nazi Party. He was the founder and publisher of the virulently antisemitic newspaper Der Stürmer, which became a central element of the Nazi propaganda machine. His publishing firm also released three antisemitic books for children, including the 1938 Der Giftpilz (translated into English as The Toadstool or The Poisonous Mushroom),[a] one of the most widespread pieces of propaganda, which warned about the supposed dangers Jews posed by using the metaphor of an attractive yet deadly mushroom. The publishing firm was financially very successful and made Streicher a multi-millionaire.[1] At the end of the war, Streicher was convicted of crimes against humanity in the Nuremberg trials and was executed.[2]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Streicher
Stinky The Clown
(67,798 posts)jaysunb
(11,856 posts)they have surely lied and disseminated false information the can easily be construed as propaganda.
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,500 posts)sentence them to 25 - life. But we all know that ain't going to happen. Which is why mothafucking Colbert had war criminal ass Condisleeza Rice as a guest the other night. From what I gathered from the Youtubes.
atreides1
(16,076 posts)Maybe someone will get them in another way that legally might be questionable...just saying...
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)It needs to be airtight. They will have very expensive lawyers who will be paid for by those that they benefited, in order to keep more names from coming out.
I think that Mueller had the best strategy, like you do when you go after the mob - go after the little fish first, and get them to turn with plea deals. When the medium fish see that, they get their lawyers to offer up the bigger fish pre-emptively.
Sugar Smack
(18,748 posts)Like any one of these assholes, trying on shoes somewhere or simply trying to get from one place to another. Good luck to any of those assholes who want a quiet dinner night out for two.
malaise
(268,976 posts)in the Nixon era
DFW
(54,370 posts)It is not a prosecutable crime for Conway or Sanders to go out in front of the press and lie her fool head off.
Pompeo, Barr and Pence breaking laws, lying before Congress, and/or enriching themselves and/or using taxpayer money for their leisure whims are a different category altogether.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)I could make an exception for trump admin, though.
EveHammond13
(2,855 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)Grasswire2
(13,569 posts)......WHAT would Republicans do?
If we are not willing to be RUTHLESS when it comes to crimes, then we will continue to be the victims in every situation.
Look how many times we have rolled over, looked forward not backward, gone along to get along, yada yada yada.
This is a war for liberty and against tyranny.
Read The Art Of War and see how they use our strengths against us.
arthritisR_US
(7,288 posts)elocs
(22,571 posts)In human history the list of people who don't get what they deserve is very, very, very long.
I wonder how many care more about Trump getting punished than beating him in the next election.
It's unlikely that Trump will ever get what he deserves (are there lots of billionaires in prisons?) but life goes on or at least it should.
brush
(53,776 posts)will result in many disgusted Dems staying home or going the dreaded 3rd party route. Congress has a constitutional duty to do oversight of the executive branch.
There's also the view that televised impeachment hearing will expose the stark evidence of not just trump's obstruction of justice but also his and his campaign's complicity with the Russian interference in our election, which in itself is the impeachable offense of failing to protect our country from foreign intervention. And of course there are the self-dealing/emolument clause violations being revealed.
Impeachment, whether he is convicted in the Senate or not will make the unfit orange debacle sweat and maybe drive him to commit even more outrageous acts which will further strengthen the case for impeachment.
elocs
(22,571 posts)Plus, exactly how would the Democratic candidate be responsible for what the House does or does not do?
I'd contend that there are just as many who don't care if impeachment helps Trump to win because they just want to humiliate him.
But impeachment now would certainly take the wind out of the Democratic candidates sails especially when defeating Trump in the election is a far surer way of getting him out of office.
brush
(53,776 posts)sails. Seems to me it would give them more material that will be revealed to rail against trump on the campaign trail. But that's just me. He's an unfit monster and our candidates should be targeting him and not each other.
elocs
(22,571 posts)Who will be listening to the candidates or paying attention to what they say?
Impeachment will suck all the air out of the room and then when he is not convicted by the Senate, Trump will brag about how he was vindicated.
Won't that be special?
brush
(53,776 posts)the WH and the Senate as revelations will also come out against Moscow Mitch.
pwb
(11,261 posts)Shit comes back to haunt assholes.
NCLefty
(3,678 posts)"So the country could move forward."
And look what Republicans did to him anyway... birtherism..
Let's try going after them this time. Republicans don't respond to what they consider "weakness."