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brush

(53,776 posts)
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 09:53 PM Sep 2019

Should there be consequences for the Kelly Anne Conways, SHSs, Pompeos, Barrs, Pences and others...

once trump is impeached and/or defeated in the election? I mean with all the Mueller report info, self dealing/emolument clause violations just coming out and his/their failure to protect the country from foreign interference with our elections—Moscow Mitch?

These traitors, IMO, should not be allowed to just prance away into shame and obscurity for supporting and enabling this megalomaniacal lunatic who they know is unfit for the office.

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Should there be consequences for the Kelly Anne Conways, SHSs, Pompeos, Barrs, Pences and others... (Original Post) brush Sep 2019 OP
Tarring and feathering isn't allowed any more. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2019 #1
YES JI7 Sep 2019 #2
Yes. Iliyah Sep 2019 #3
I see them as no different than Hitler's Nazi enablers Stinky The Clown Sep 2019 #4
like Julius Streicher? DBoon Sep 2019 #9
Sure. Yeah. Like Julius Streicher Stinky The Clown Sep 2019 #12
Fox News comes to mind... jaysunb Sep 2019 #16
Not sure if you could get them legally. But the court of public opinion should Guy Whitey Corngood Sep 2019 #5
Well atreides1 Sep 2019 #27
There will have to be specific charges, and evidence like paper trails. ehrnst Sep 2019 #6
Social (public) consequences would be the most easily immediate. Sugar Smack Sep 2019 #7
I want to see more of them in prison than were locked up malaise Sep 2019 #8
For ones that committed prosecutable acts, absolutely DFW Sep 2019 #10
Generally opposed to a successor Admin going after the previous Administration. Hoyt Sep 2019 #11
+1 2naSalit Sep 2019 #13
YES. We need a Truth and Reconciliation Commission to decide how to handle this. EveHammond13 Sep 2019 #14
Sure. Even if it's karma. lunatica Sep 2019 #15
Think of it this way.... Grasswire2 Sep 2019 #17
What you say...hell yes!!! arthritisR_US Sep 2019 #18
Impeachment without conviction in the Senate will not remove Trump from office. elocs Sep 2019 #19
There's also the possibility that Dem failure to impeach such an obviously unfit president... brush Sep 2019 #20
It'll take far less than failure to impeach to make pissy Dems stay home. elocs Sep 2019 #22
That's one way of looking at it. I fail to see how an impeachment takes the wind out of candidates.. brush Sep 2019 #23
What will the national conversation be about? elocs Sep 2019 #25
That's the way you see it. I don't. I think the disclosures will be so shameful repugs will lose... brush Sep 2019 #26
Karma will do it for me. pwb Sep 2019 #21
Obama lets Bush and his people off for lying about Iraq. NCLefty Sep 2019 #24

Stinky The Clown

(67,798 posts)
4. I see them as no different than Hitler's Nazi enablers
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 10:08 PM
Sep 2019

Yeah, I know . . . . Hitler.

Tell me the analogy is not apt.

DBoon

(22,363 posts)
9. like Julius Streicher?
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 11:20 PM
Sep 2019
Julius Streicher (12 February 1885 – 16 October 1946) was a prominent member of the Nazi Party. He was the founder and publisher of the virulently antisemitic newspaper Der Stürmer, which became a central element of the Nazi propaganda machine. His publishing firm also released three antisemitic books for children, including the 1938 Der Giftpilz (translated into English as The Toadstool or The Poisonous Mushroom),[a] one of the most widespread pieces of propaganda, which warned about the supposed dangers Jews posed by using the metaphor of an attractive yet deadly mushroom. The publishing firm was financially very successful and made Streicher a multi-millionaire.[1] At the end of the war, Streicher was convicted of crimes against humanity in the Nuremberg trials and was executed.[2]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Streicher

jaysunb

(11,856 posts)
16. Fox News comes to mind...
Sun Sep 15, 2019, 01:08 AM
Sep 2019

they have surely lied and disseminated false information the can easily be construed as propaganda.

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,500 posts)
5. Not sure if you could get them legally. But the court of public opinion should
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 10:09 PM
Sep 2019

sentence them to 25 - life. But we all know that ain't going to happen. Which is why mothafucking Colbert had war criminal ass Condisleeza Rice as a guest the other night. From what I gathered from the Youtubes.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
6. There will have to be specific charges, and evidence like paper trails.
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 10:10 PM
Sep 2019

It needs to be airtight. They will have very expensive lawyers who will be paid for by those that they benefited, in order to keep more names from coming out.

I think that Mueller had the best strategy, like you do when you go after the mob - go after the little fish first, and get them to turn with plea deals. When the medium fish see that, they get their lawyers to offer up the bigger fish pre-emptively.

Sugar Smack

(18,748 posts)
7. Social (public) consequences would be the most easily immediate.
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 10:12 PM
Sep 2019

Like any one of these assholes, trying on shoes somewhere or simply trying to get from one place to another. Good luck to any of those assholes who want a quiet dinner night out for two.

DFW

(54,370 posts)
10. For ones that committed prosecutable acts, absolutely
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 11:28 PM
Sep 2019

It is not a prosecutable crime for Conway or Sanders to go out in front of the press and lie her fool head off.

Pompeo, Barr and Pence breaking laws, lying before Congress, and/or enriching themselves and/or using taxpayer money for their leisure whims are a different category altogether.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
11. Generally opposed to a successor Admin going after the previous Administration.
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 11:29 PM
Sep 2019


I could make an exception for trump admin, though.

Grasswire2

(13,569 posts)
17. Think of it this way....
Sun Sep 15, 2019, 02:30 AM
Sep 2019

......WHAT would Republicans do?

If we are not willing to be RUTHLESS when it comes to crimes, then we will continue to be the victims in every situation.

Look how many times we have rolled over, looked forward not backward, gone along to get along, yada yada yada.

This is a war for liberty and against tyranny.

Read The Art Of War and see how they use our strengths against us.

elocs

(22,571 posts)
19. Impeachment without conviction in the Senate will not remove Trump from office.
Sun Sep 15, 2019, 06:37 AM
Sep 2019

In human history the list of people who don't get what they deserve is very, very, very long.

I wonder how many care more about Trump getting punished than beating him in the next election.
It's unlikely that Trump will ever get what he deserves (are there lots of billionaires in prisons?) but life goes on or at least it should.

brush

(53,776 posts)
20. There's also the possibility that Dem failure to impeach such an obviously unfit president...
Sun Sep 15, 2019, 10:36 AM
Sep 2019

will result in many disgusted Dems staying home or going the dreaded 3rd party route. Congress has a constitutional duty to do oversight of the executive branch.

There's also the view that televised impeachment hearing will expose the stark evidence of not just trump's obstruction of justice but also his and his campaign's complicity with the Russian interference in our election, which in itself is the impeachable offense of failing to protect our country from foreign intervention. And of course there are the self-dealing/emolument clause violations being revealed.

Impeachment, whether he is convicted in the Senate or not will make the unfit orange debacle sweat and maybe drive him to commit even more outrageous acts which will further strengthen the case for impeachment.

elocs

(22,571 posts)
22. It'll take far less than failure to impeach to make pissy Dems stay home.
Sun Sep 15, 2019, 05:03 PM
Sep 2019

Plus, exactly how would the Democratic candidate be responsible for what the House does or does not do?

I'd contend that there are just as many who don't care if impeachment helps Trump to win because they just want to humiliate him.
But impeachment now would certainly take the wind out of the Democratic candidates sails especially when defeating Trump in the election is a far surer way of getting him out of office.

brush

(53,776 posts)
23. That's one way of looking at it. I fail to see how an impeachment takes the wind out of candidates..
Sun Sep 15, 2019, 05:10 PM
Sep 2019

sails. Seems to me it would give them more material that will be revealed to rail against trump on the campaign trail. But that's just me. He's an unfit monster and our candidates should be targeting him and not each other.

elocs

(22,571 posts)
25. What will the national conversation be about?
Sun Sep 15, 2019, 05:20 PM
Sep 2019

Who will be listening to the candidates or paying attention to what they say?
Impeachment will suck all the air out of the room and then when he is not convicted by the Senate, Trump will brag about how he was vindicated.
Won't that be special?

brush

(53,776 posts)
26. That's the way you see it. I don't. I think the disclosures will be so shameful repugs will lose...
Sun Sep 15, 2019, 05:37 PM
Sep 2019

the WH and the Senate as revelations will also come out against Moscow Mitch.

NCLefty

(3,678 posts)
24. Obama lets Bush and his people off for lying about Iraq.
Sun Sep 15, 2019, 05:12 PM
Sep 2019

"So the country could move forward."

And look what Republicans did to him anyway... birtherism..

Let's try going after them this time. Republicans don't respond to what they consider "weakness."

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