The horrible people who are evangelicals

[RAB910]

[brutus smith]

1. Time to stop their tax exempt status

[usaf-vet]

2. EXACTLY!

Now is the time.

[rpannier]

7. On what grounds?

They are entitled to hold whatever political opinions they wantand not be in violation of any law or rule regarding tax exempt status
They are free to be a$$es, jerks, hypocrites all they want, because as a private citizens that is their right
Using non-profit for politics is a violation, having an obnoxious opinion about politics is not

[ColesCountyDem]

11. Exactly! n/t

[Larrybanal]

12. more antiquated laws

just like the second amendment...it is a relic of a different time...before AK47s. now we have these insanely wealthy mega churches that benefit the church founders more than they act as a charity and the only way they will help people is thru paying taxes

[greymattermom]

31. So make the income tax exempt up to a certain level, pegged to civil service salaries.

That way smaller churches wouldn't be hurt. Also make sure that these nonprofits are audited, and that a mandatory portion of their income goes to real charities.

[maddiemom]

17. Not the individuals but the CHURCHES.

They're tax exempt because they're supposed to be apolitcal, and not tell the members for whom to vote.

[yellowdogintexas]

53. And that is the key nt

[yuiyoshida]

21. Yup!

[IronLionZion]

29. If pastors tell their congregations how to vote

based on immoral behavior, then they should lose their tax exempt status. They often do this for abortion/gays and Democrats, but not cheating lying thrice-divorced racist sexual assaulting Republicans.

[joost5]

46. Trump signs order seeking to allow churches to engage in more political activity

the article:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-signs-order-aimed-at-allowing-churches-to-engage-in-more-political-activity/2017/05/04/024ed7c2-30d3-11e7-9534-00e4656c22aa_story.html

it might be behind their paywall, was for me, but the jist of it is that Trump is encouraging politics in the pews.

[Midnight Writer]

45. On what grounds are they tax exempt in the first place? They are far from "non-profit".

Many of these "non-profits" pay their leaders and executives millions of dollars. Not just churches. Look at the NBA. The NRA. Countless others.

Please read Jane Mayers' "Dark Money", which details how the billionaire class funds "non-profit" groups, using tax exempt status to protect their fortunes and for personal gain.

The principle of tax exempt organizations that "serve the public good" sounds righteous, but in practice it is disastrous, another loophole to take money from the working class and funnel it to the already rich.

[Farmer-Rick]

47. On grounds churches only get tax exemption for being non political

It is part of their free ride deal. It is in the law and IRS regulations

Yeah they can be stupid idiots but their churches better be non political stupid idiots or they need to pay their full taxes.

I resent paying their way.

[Takket]

15. Yes

Evangelicalism is a political movement cloaked as a religion, and it should be treated as such.

[2naSalit]

16. Amen to that! ...nt

[olegramps]

20. I am for the removal of all tax exemptions for religious organizations.

[patphil]

23. I agree.

They should be able to get write offs for charitable work, but that's all.
Certainly not for property, or buildings not directly related to charitable endeavors.

[greymattermom]

32. This sounds reasonable to me.

I volunteer for a charity that reminds me at every meeting that self-dealing is illegal.

[DENVERPOPS]

38. A large number of the leaders of evangelical churches

are just as big at Grifting as our supreme chief and his entire party.............

[NCLefty]

57. Good fracking luck in this country.

We're a... Christian Nation, after all...

[Fortinbras Armstrong]

3. If anyone claims to be a Christian but supports Trump

The claim is obviously false. Trumpism is a denial of Christ and his teachings.

[True Blue American]

4. Amen! :)

[uriel1972]

48. If anyone claims to be a "Scotsman" but supports Trump...

They are "No True Scotsman"

[Mariana]

54. Every time. It's so predictable. nt.

[sarge43]

5. They work in hypocrisy

the way Michelangelo worked in marble.

Just like their hero, they're greedy con artists.

[KY_EnviroGuy]

6. Hypocrisy driven by covert racism and overt misogyny and homophobia.

Merely claiming to be religious is now moral license to break many laws.

KY.........

[RAB910]

9. Yeah, no doubt there is a major touch of racism

at work here

[bronxiteforever]

27. +1000

[Lonestarblue]

10. The hypocrisy is obvious, but evangelicals have political goals.

They want Roe v. Wade overturned and abortion made illegal for any reason, even to save the life of the mother. The new nonsense being pushed is that an abortion is never medically necessary and that the fetus of an ectopic pregnancy can be removed from the fallopian tube and placed in the uterus. It can’t. And if you do nothing, the woman will bleed to death.

Their second goal is to overturn any rights for LGBT and force them back into the closet by reinstating laws that victimize them. Never mind that a large majority of people support these rights.

And finally they want to preserve white supremacy and privilege. I do not think they even see their own hypocrisy, and the excuse they give is that the Lord works even through imperfect people like Trump, and God is the one who ensured his election because he will save the country from all the negative cultural changes they are seeing and want to reverse. This perversion of Christianity is dangerous because public officials have a hard time countering it without looking unChristian themselves. And somehow, even though they’re a minority, they have gained outsized political power. They are the rabid, faithful base of the Republican Party and they will vote for any Republican no matter how dishonest or corrupt.

[Act_of_Reparation]

13. I don't know that it's THAT complicated.

At least not for the rank and file evangelicals.

Being Republican is part of the evangelical identity, and generally speaking, people are more forgiving of those in their in-group than they are of those in their out-group. I'm sure the more cerebral evangelicals are rationalizing their support for Donald Trump with Roe v. Wade and whatever horrible legislation they'd like to see enacted, but I think your average Joe is willing to cut Trump some slack because he's "one of us".

[RAB910]

14. This wasn't always the case

https://www.npr.org/2019/06/20/734303135/throughline-traces-evangelicals-history-on-the-abortion-issue

[Ingersollman]

18. Hypocrisy

with a dash, (or more), of racism.

[lagomorph777]

19. Evilgelicals are all about hurting as many people as possible.

And Pres. Turd is their man.

[RAB910]

25. In the name of religion of course

[lark]

22. Another name for it - ignorant racism.

One of the main drivers of the drumpf base.

[world wide wally]

24. Evangelicalism is just a branch of the GOP

It has virtually NOTHING to do with religion, let alone God.

[RAB910]

26. The GOP has always stood against what Jesus preached

[bronxiteforever]

28. +1 Excellent point. They are just another group of lobbyists.

[Runningdawg]

33. One cult has absorbed another.

[AtheistCrusader]

30. It's not hypocrisy.

It's racism.

[RAB910]

34. Both really

as hypocrisy is one of of the cornerstones of racism

[LiberalBrooke]

42. Yes it is racism but misogyny even more so.

Preserving male dominance is primary, especially for white males.

[90-percent]

35. off to my FB wall

to study the reactions. I'm a car guy (skews towards blind trumperism) and I have Baptist friends, and it's always fun to gauge the reactions.

its fun with trumpers - if they disagree, they dismiss as "fake news". Easy-peazzie. no thinking required. I keep re-learning a quote from my hero Frank Zappa; "People will agree with you only if they already agree with you. You do not change peoples minds."

Another thing on FB that I've grown to realize, righties have a deep seething hatred and utter contempt towards progressive liberal dems. post birth abortions, open borders, free stuff, other peoples money, antifa are the real nazi's and already murdered some,


a post from a conservative fb bud i went to college with:

"The activist left seeks to control everything you do, including what you put in your mouth." "the most dangerous place for a person in the United States is inside the womb of a Democrat", "Bernie Sanders Backs Abortion for Population Control: Kill More Babies to Combat Climate Change"

The SEETHING PREJUDICE I endure from my conservative buds is infuriating and hurts my feelings. Well, if they really feel that way about us, no wonder they hate people like me. Their beliefs are based on the thirty years of right wing corporate propaganda and are generally false. It's aggravating debating somebody that EVERYTHING THEY BELIEVE POLITICALLY IS WRONG!!!

But, to malign Daniel Patrick Moynihan's famous quote; "Today everybody is indeed entitled to their own facts."

I switch to fox during msnbc prime time, and if I wasn't excellent at anger management, I'd smash one TV a week in anger. Bald face easily disproved manufactured lies. There oughta be a law. and there used to be, but our laws have been dismantled for DECADES to allow this sort of thing to go on unobstructed.

-90% Jimmy

[RAB910]

36. Back when Star Wars was young

Yoda said:

“Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.”


The GOP/right was inspired to make that the foundation of their political party/ideology

[keithbvadu2]

37. To his evangelicals/Christians, Trump is so devout

To his evangelicals/Christians, Trump is so devout

[blakstoneranger]

39. THEY CALLED OBAMA THE ANTICHRIST!!! CAN U BELIEVE IT!!

And they claim trump is a gift from God. When the orange menace is no longer president, they'll switch back to 30% and not even remember what they said or did during the trump admin and worse, THEY WON'T CARE! Because it's about having their way. It's about having things they way they want them. It's about having it both ways. What's moral and righteous today may be a diffrent thing tomorrow. It doesn't matter as long as they get their way. Can you believe they called obama the antichrist!! They only thing evangelical leaders care about more than anything is MONEY!! You can say they care about abortion, race superiority, ect, but no. All that takes a back seat to the all mighty dollar. Wealth is what they really care about. Paula white tells a woman that instead of using her money for cancer treatments she should give it to her as a seed to sow for a cure! Now that greed. And she's trumps spiritual advisor! (and who knows what else). At this point, anybody who's giving money to evangelical preachers, prosperity preachers, are either totally stupid, blind, or scared to death. And most are members of trumps base. Obama knew what was going on with these preachers and decided to tax them--they got scared and started calling him the antichrist--(i.e don't f.. with my money!!). Something has to be done about these people.

[RAB910]

40. This

[elocs]

41. I once heard a pastor talk about those who would not attend church because of the hypocrites there

and he said, "You may as well come on in because one more won't make any difference".

[KT2000]

43. Racism

[The Wizard]

44. Most are lying scumbags

using religion as a shield. God gives them an excuse to not uphold responsibilities and committing immoral acts.

[Blue_true]

49. Your description fits the rightwing ones to a T. nt

[zentrum]

50. Signs by a few Trumpies

....at Warren's Washington Square rally tonight said "God loves Trump'.

They had shit-eating grins on their face and red hats. Doesn't get uglier.

We numbered in the 1000's and there were about 7 of them. Everyone ignored them and just let them do their thing,

I walked up and said to one of them, "If we demonstrated at a Trump rally like you are doing here, our lives would be in danger and violence would be done to us. And you know it."

Never got a reply.

[guillaumeb]

51. For many, the word hypocrisy is spelled......

racism.

[MadDAsHell]

52. Easy answer: abortion. It's the only issue in 2019 that matters.

It is the ONLY issue that keeps tens of millions voting RepubliCON. And unless that issue ever goes away, those are tens of millions of votes they'll never lose matter what their candidate does.

[napi21]

55. I watched a netflix original movie "the Family". It's about the evangelicals who control

much of congress. This org. started in a house on C Street close to the Capitol. The movie covers from the beginning to now and how they grew their org to be world wide! It's frightening how much power they have in governments. It's an enlightening movie, but It's so depressing I almost wish I wouldn't have watched it.

[RAB910]

58. Thanks for the rec, I will have to check it out

[NCLefty]

56. Here's a 2016 article about this:

https://www.npr.org/2016/10/23/498890836/poll-white-evangelicals-have-warmed-to-politicians-who-commit-immoral-acts