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Rep. Eric Swalwell: That's cute....stay tuned (Original Post) Tanuki Sep 2019 OP
Ooh! Arthur_Frain Sep 2019 #1
Hope it's for not too long. triron Sep 2019 #2
K&R...👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 spanone Sep 2019 #3
He thinks the Mueller Report cost $40 million gratuitous Sep 2019 #4
The Mueller Report/Investigation has made money Botany Sep 2019 #10
TRUMP'S GOLFING HAS COST TAXPAYERS $102M Duppers Sep 2019 #12
That's why I confined my SWAG to 2018 gratuitous Sep 2019 #14
Was only confirming the huge amt. Duppers Sep 2019 #17
Ha malaise Sep 2019 #5
"soon" maxsolomon Sep 2019 #7
Need congress to do what Schiff has suggested: imprison those in contempt. triron Sep 2019 #15
there's no mechanism for that. DOJ would have to enforce. maxsolomon Sep 2019 #16
there is a mechanism for that Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #19
I think Schiff is referring to the latter. triron Sep 2019 #20
yes -- he mentioned a hefty, daily fine ... Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #21
Swalwell is sharp Gotta like 'em. empedocles Sep 2019 #6
He'd make a good "Floor Leader" for Impeachment proceedings of one Donald J. Trump. Kid Berwyn Sep 2019 #18
It's a Yogi Berra moment bucolic_frolic Sep 2019 #8
But those con men had charm. Even their "mark" was less reprehensible than Trump. maddiemom Sep 2019 #9
Lying sons-a-bitches... Hulk Sep 2019 #11
next they will claim it's responsible for the deficit! Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #22
I'm so glad he dropped out of the prez race. He's very needed where he is. Hekate Sep 2019 #13

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
4. He thinks the Mueller Report cost $40 million
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 12:08 PM
Sep 2019

No, Donald, that's what you spent on golfing that you didn't have time for in 2018.

Botany

(70,447 posts)
10. The Mueller Report/Investigation has made money
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 02:50 PM
Sep 2019

The Feds seized over $40,000,000 in real estate, cash, and other "stuff" from Manafort.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
14. That's why I confined my SWAG to 2018
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 03:24 PM
Sep 2019

It's always interesting to me when Trump obsesses over the cost of something. Usually because he makes it sound like it's coming out of his own pocket, which aggravates his gullible base no end.

Duppers

(28,117 posts)
17. Was only confirming the huge amt.
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 05:38 PM
Sep 2019

Not disputing your number.

This expenditure amount should be touted by the press every time His Hair Furious speaks of any spending amt.

maxsolomon

(33,244 posts)
7. "soon"
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 01:08 PM
Sep 2019

i'd just like to see some forward momentum. some courts agreeing with the Dems and forcing Administration cooperation.

maybe we'll see it in before the looming shutdown?

maxsolomon

(33,244 posts)
16. there's no mechanism for that. DOJ would have to enforce.
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 03:45 PM
Sep 2019

Barr won't.

the checks and balances in the constitution are exposed as toothless in the face of executive branch corruption.

the courts have to take a side.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,254 posts)
19. there is a mechanism for that
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 08:27 PM
Sep 2019

See 2 U.S.C. 192
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/2/192

That still relies on the DoJ, though.

Then there is the historical "inherent contempt":

https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R45653.pdf

House and Senate each do their own arresting in that process.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,254 posts)
21. yes -- he mentioned a hefty, daily fine ...
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 08:37 PM
Sep 2019

If I'm reading it correctly, the SCOTUS ruled the House and Senate can do pretty much whatever they deem necessary to end obstructions:


https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/294/125/

Syllabus

1. The power of a House of Congress to punish a private citizen who obstructs the performance of its legislative duties is not limited to the removal of an existing obstruction, but continues after the obstruction has ceased or its removal has become impossible. P. 294 U. S. 147.

Held in this case that the Senate had power to cite for contempt a witness charged with having permitted the removal and destruction of papers which he had been subpoenaed to produce.

2. The Act making refusal to answer or to produce papers before either House, or one of its committees, a misdemeanor (R.S. § 102) did not impair, but supplemented, the power of the House affected to punish for such contempt. P. 294 U. S. 151.

3. Punishment, purely as such, through contempt proceedings, legislative or judicial, is not precluded because punishment may also be inflicted for the same act as a statutory offence. P. 294 U. S. 151.

4. Where a proceeding for contempt is within the jurisdiction of a House of Congress, the questions whether the person arrested is guilty or has so far purged himself that he does not deserve punishment are questions for that House to decide, and which cannot be inquired into by a court by a writ of habeas corpus. P. 294 U. S. 152.

63 App.D.C. 342 72 F. 2d 560, reversed.

Supreme Court, D.C., affirmed.

Certiorari, 293 U.S. 543, to review the reversal of a judgment discharging a writ of habeas corpus by which the above-named respondent sought to gain his release from the custody of the above-named petitioner, the Sergeant-at-Arms of the Senate.

Kid Berwyn

(14,796 posts)
18. He'd make a good "Floor Leader" for Impeachment proceedings of one Donald J. Trump.
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 05:42 PM
Sep 2019

Nail him to the wall, as Newt Gingrich and Ken Starr did.

bucolic_frolic

(43,052 posts)
8. It's a Yogi Berra moment
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 01:58 PM
Sep 2019

It ain't over til it's over.

The Big Con: The Story of the Confidence Man. The basis for the movie, "The Sting".

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
11. Lying sons-a-bitches...
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 03:03 PM
Sep 2019

Forty million now....wow....It was $25,000,000, when that was a shocking number to throw around. Then mccarthy-puppet started calling it $30,000,000. Now it's jumped to $40,000,000. Mark my word....it will be $50 by next week. These pigs lie so fast even their lies look good compared to the next lies. What a disgraceful party of deceptive ass holes.

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