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hlthe2b

(102,141 posts)
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 01:49 PM Sep 2019

Sen. Chris Murphy on what is going on in Yemen and why we do not need to bomb Iran over oilfields

He is obviously knowledgable and I've yet to find any real authority that disagrees with this summation:




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2/ The conflict btwn Saudi Arabia and Yemen roughly dates from the 1932 founding of Saudi Arabia, when the new kingdom took territory from Yemen in a war set off by a border dispute. The Saudis has attempted to influence Yemeni affairs every since.
3/ The Houthis are a group of Shia tribes in northern Yemen who practice a distinct form of Islam called Zaidism. In the 1980s, the Saudis began a campaign to push Sunni Wahabism into Houthi areas, creating massive friction with Houthi communities.
4/ Saudi Arabia sent Wahhabi settlers into Houthi areas to try to dilute Zaidism and increase Saudi influence in north Yemen. The Houthi resistance to the Saudis, and their patron governments in the Yemeni capital, grew and grew.
5/ In the 2000s, Saudi backed Yemeni governments carried out 6 separate wars against the now rebelling Houthis. Bush opposed most of these wars, believing the anti-Houthi campaigns to be doing more harm than good, especially as the Houthis began to reach out to Iran for help.
6/ Over the course of these wars, the Houthi military capabilities grew, and by 2010 they were the most battle tested army in Yemen. In 2015 they successfully marched on the Yemeni capital, Sanaa, and Saudi Arabia and UAE initiated a full fledged war against the Houthis.
7/ Since 2015, there have been atrocities committed by both sides. Casualties are hard to track, but it could be that 100,000 Yemenis have died in the war, and the resulting humanitarian disaster has resulted in another 100,000 children dying of starvation or disease.
8/ The cholera outbreak (the result of water treatment plants being destroyed) is the worst in recorded world history. Houthis refuse to let food & medicine reach contested areas. Saudis drop bombs on hospitals and school buses. Bottom line - it's the ugliest war on the planet.
9/ Over time, the Houthis have turned to Iran for more and more help. The Iranians don't have a command and control relationship with Houthis, but their influence grows every day the war continues. Houthi drones likely come from Iran.
10/ Over time, a dangerous game of escalating behavior has developed. Saudis kill a bunch of Houthi civilians, then the Houthis launch an attack in Saudi Arabia. The latest attack on the Saudi refinery follows a Saudi attack on Dhamar prison which killed 100 people.
11/ Bottom line: the Saudis sowed the seeds of this mess. They marginalized the Houthis in the 80s and thru the 2000s wars. They bungled the prosecution of the post 2015 conflict. Houthis/Iranians have blood on their hands too, but the U.S. should not be a part of this disaster.

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Sen. Chris Murphy on what is going on in Yemen and why we do not need to bomb Iran over oilfields (Original Post) hlthe2b Sep 2019 OP
Sen. Chris Murphy telling it like it should be told..a man for all Americans..knows that the good asiliveandbreathe Sep 2019 #1
K and R Mosby Sep 2019 #2
Ka-Boom, Wellstone ruled Sep 2019 #3
Senator Murphy is just in league with the EU and Great Britain. (sarcasm) triron Sep 2019 #4

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
1. Sen. Chris Murphy telling it like it should be told..a man for all Americans..knows that the good
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 02:00 PM
Sep 2019

people of our country CAN handle the truth...I don't want to hear it first from reporters..I want to hear it first from OUR elected officials..

I was thinking the same thing..let the Saudis clean up their own mess..Pompeo and the thumper in the WH are NOT who we need to listen to...

the U.S. should not be a part of this disaster..period!!!!!

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
3. Ka-Boom,
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 02:26 PM
Sep 2019

the real story emerges. As many here understand,memories of past brutality on any nation or group of people,in most countries is never forgotten.

Great example is what happened to the Armenians by the Turks.

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