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PJMcK

(21,995 posts)
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 04:45 PM Sep 2019

I just cancelled my digital subscription to the NY Times

Their recent sloppiness regarding Kavanaugh pushed me over the edge.

I've been reading the Times daily (and usually attempting the crossword puzzle) since the mid-1970s. The paper has become a disappointment editorially and in their reporting. The Judith Miller/Iraq War fiasco was the beginning of my disgust but this latest episode pushed me over the edge.

In order to cancel a digital subscription, one has to engage in an online chat with one of the paper's "advocates." After reading my complaints, "Ashley" told me that my views would be expressed to the management however if I continued my subscription, they would give me a substantial discount on its cost.

In other words, it's all transactional.

Thanks, but no thanks was my reply.

Frankly, I'm saddened because I've always felt the NYT was a gold standard. Turns out it's fools gold.

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I just cancelled my digital subscription to the NY Times (Original Post) PJMcK Sep 2019 OP
Seems like our side types have been shooting themselves in the foot, giving ammo to the wingnuts UTUSN Sep 2019 #1
what sloppiness are you referring to? Tumbulu Sep 2019 #2
I assume it refers to the alleged victim not recalling that anything like that happened... 4139 Sep 2019 #7
I let my digital script go as well. Their dig. readship is down 40% save cooking and travel Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #3
Link for that 40%? nt LAS14 Sep 2019 #4
What are you depending on instead? nt LAS14 Sep 2019 #5
The internet, while using logic and critical thinking PJMcK Sep 2019 #10
I check stuff I find on the internet with the NYT. I'm going to feel even more... LAS14 Sep 2019 #16
I'm speaking with myself, number one, because I have a very good brain and I've said a lot of things thesquanderer Sep 2019 #17
Joke, right? LAS14 Sep 2019 #19
yes, joke. Infamous Trump quote. (n/t) thesquanderer Sep 2019 #20
What sloppiness are you referring to? harumph Sep 2019 #6
Take a look at this PJMcK Sep 2019 #11
I get wapo. I want to support good journalists. lindysalsagal Sep 2019 #8
Yeah, that was part of my point PJMcK Sep 2019 #13
I was going to cancel after the cartoonist stuff, but never found out how that ended Kali Sep 2019 #9
I cancelled, disgusted, at the time of Judith Miller. Golden Raisin Sep 2019 #12
We are far too quick & willing to jump on any news that makes the other side look bad elocs Sep 2019 #14
I just cancelled my digital subscription to the NY Times. LenaBaby61 Sep 2019 #15
Cancelled mine last month Kilgore Sep 2019 #18
All the Propaganda That's Fit to Print dalton99a Sep 2019 #21
Wow Lucky Luciano Sep 2019 #22

4139

(1,893 posts)
7. I assume it refers to the alleged victim not recalling that anything like that happened...
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 05:11 PM
Sep 2019

That should have been right with the allegation of the Times article.

Thekaspervote

(32,705 posts)
3. I let my digital script go as well. Their dig. readship is down 40% save cooking and travel
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 04:59 PM
Sep 2019

Way too many flip flops, almost outright trump friendly... no thx

PJMcK

(21,995 posts)
10. The internet, while using logic and critical thinking
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 05:51 PM
Sep 2019

After all, there is much more information available online than ever before.

DU is a great source for liberal/progressive information. National Review is a great source for the opposing view. There are many other sites within that spectrum.

In sum, there is a tremendous panorama of information available on Earth's database, also known as the internet. I don't have to financially support an outlet like the NY Times if I find their content to be repeatedly inaccurate, in need of correction or just plain wrong, (think Judith Miller).

I have great respect for your posts and responses, LAS14 and I hope my comments above answer your question.

LAS14

(13,769 posts)
16. I check stuff I find on the internet with the NYT. I'm going to feel even more...
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 06:02 PM
Sep 2019

... dependent when deep fake graphics really take hold. You need an organization with lots of resources.

thesquanderer

(11,972 posts)
17. I'm speaking with myself, number one, because I have a very good brain and I've said a lot of things
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 09:18 PM
Sep 2019

LAS14

(13,769 posts)
19. Joke, right?
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 11:40 PM
Sep 2019

If not a joke, then let me clarify that I'm asking where you get your reports of events, not opinions.

tia
las

PJMcK

(21,995 posts)
11. Take a look at this
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 05:55 PM
Sep 2019
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/16/new-york-times-brett-kavanaugh-book-1498153

But as I wrote in another response, the Times failed hugely when they advanced Judith Miller's reporting leading to the invasion of Iraq under George W. Bush's administration. It later became clear that Miller was fed erroneous information by Dick Cheney. The Times' acceptance of Cheney's misinformation contributed to our country's invasion and occupation of Iraq.

Sloppy and wrong.

PJMcK

(21,995 posts)
13. Yeah, that was part of my point
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 05:57 PM
Sep 2019

"Ashley" offered me a discounted subscription rate if I didn't cancel.

I wasn't cancelling because of the cost. I hope that's clear.

The fact of the offer demonstrates that the NY Times is only interested in transactional business. They are not putting quality journalism at the top of their agenda.

Kali

(55,003 posts)
9. I was going to cancel after the cartoonist stuff, but never found out how that ended
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 05:42 PM
Sep 2019

anybody know?

thanks OP, for the how-to info, they just got me for another $15. want to support journalism but kind of agree on nyt problems. Guardian and WAPO still good, I think.

Golden Raisin

(4,605 posts)
12. I cancelled, disgusted, at the time of Judith Miller.
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 05:57 PM
Sep 2019

And I was also a subscriber since the early 1970s and come from a family where we ALWAYS received home delivery and everyone did the daily and Sunday crossword puzzles. I am retired now and look daily at many news sources and papers, domestic & international, online, including (still) the front page of the NY Times. The sloppiness of this Kavanaugh business is stunning.

elocs

(22,541 posts)
14. We are far too quick & willing to jump on any news that makes the other side look bad
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 06:00 PM
Sep 2019

and then we end up with egg on our faces.

But this was definitely sloppy journalism.

LenaBaby61

(6,972 posts)
15. I just cancelled my digital subscription to the NY Times.
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 06:01 PM
Sep 2019

I cancelled my subscription which I inherited from my late Mom shortly after it was apparent that stupid ass, LYING Judith Miller became a cheerleader/water-carrier for the Iraq War invasion.

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