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Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 08:57 AM Sep 2019

I cannot bring myself to care about the suffering they will endure

Conservatives exist for the singular purpose of safeguarding their privilege. They abhor any form of egalitarianism. It has evidentially been conservative policy since the 1970’s to exploit the working class. And yet many in the working class persist in voting against their own best interest. Look at Trump and look at Brexit. As things go tits up, the awful outcomes that are presenting themselves as we live through this moment in history, is 100% the fault of people who have voted for it.

Ironically, some of those most vulnerable to economic fluctuations are those who have brought this shit shower down on our respective heads.

For those who voted for Trump, for Brexit etc et al, I blame them, and I cannot bring myself to care about the suffering they will endure because of their choices. At this point, as they continue to defend their anti-democratic choices, one can happily say they have made their bed and they must lay in it, and while they may embrace that concept with glee I do not think they have a clue how bad things are going to get under our wannabe strongmen.

I predict riots…

As already deprived areas are further disadvantaged cause conservatives, people will not blame the votes they took, but that will not stop them taking to the streets to voice their despair – and despair it will be. I will say this, here in Brexit Land…for the first time in my tax-paying life, I will begrudge every single penny that has to be diverted from public services to feed those who voted Leave and who will inevitably suffer the consequences of that choice. But I can tell you one thing. It will not stop me saying I told you so.

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asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
1. I wonder if those who did vote leave..are now rethinking their vote..based on
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 09:29 AM
Sep 2019

the additional information "Yellowhammer" forced into the public domain..and now with BJ blowing in the wind..PM Sulky..has he lost his footing? Time will tell..Brits DO know how to protest.."Stop the Coup"..

scarytomcat

(1,706 posts)
3. I think Brits where taken in by propaganda on facebook like American where in last election.
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 10:39 AM
Sep 2019

Facebook has lot to answer for. I'm not a member and will NOT ever go there. Britain should vote again

 

ConnorMarc

(653 posts)
5. The people who are voting are more to blame than Facebook
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 11:40 AM
Sep 2019

If Facebook allows lies in their ads that's one thing, but for so many people to be taken in by these lies, which are clear lies is another.

It's the people.

The OP has a damn good point, I won't feel sorry for those who suffer for voting for their own suffering.

9 times out of 10, these people KNOW they are being lied to.

#SorryNotSorry

bucolic_frolic

(43,134 posts)
10. Propaganda and mind control are dangerous tools
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 01:38 PM
Sep 2019

I never signed up for Facebook. Like you, never will. People are easily manipulated. Even offering them a choice of A or B can produce a different result than B or A, and make it A or not B and the not B's will take it.

The wrong hands can control the public with crowd behavior. Lemmings to the last.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
4. Well said
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 11:18 AM
Sep 2019

I don't know how farmers in the UK voted on Brexit. But the farmers here voted for Trump. Ok, not all farmers. But the politically conservative folks in the flyover states. As much as they complain now, they will vote for him again. Because they are congenitally unable to vote for a Democrat. Or a woman. Or a person of color. Or a Jew. Or an Eastern liberal. Or someone who believes in women's rights. Or someone who wants to do something about gun control. So they'll suffer economically, they'll lose their farms, rather than vote, for once, in their own interests.

malthaussen

(17,187 posts)
6. Oh, I'd say it has always been conservative policy...
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 11:59 AM
Sep 2019

... to exploit the working class. There was a mild hiccough there after WWII, because they were so terrified of Communism they were willing to make a few concessions, but it seems clear to me they were just waiting the chance for a solid counter-revolution.

-- Mal

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
8. Agreed, the never ending fight for a fair minimum wage is all the proof I needed!
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 12:16 PM
Sep 2019

Even at $23/hr that's not a great existance after taxes.

Meanwhile, trying to pretend $15 an hour increase spread over years to get there, is enough, while cost of just getting by goes up up UP!

bucolic_frolic

(43,134 posts)
9. Flip Flop Swap
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 01:34 PM
Sep 2019

How about instead of Trump staying, and Britain leaving, we swap you ... Trump leaves and Britain stays?

Currently the world got it backward

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
13. It's people like me who are going to suffer more because of people voting for people like MF45.
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 07:15 PM
Sep 2019

I'm at the bottom of the bottom of the barrel now! 4 more years will probably kill me, literally.

Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
14. I am sorry to heat that... but the one thing you have that those others don't
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 03:33 AM
Sep 2019

is a community here that cares... ask for help when you need it...please

NCLefty

(3,678 posts)
15. That's fine, but it's also cold comfort because we have to suffer with them.
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 03:50 AM
Sep 2019

Along with much of the world. The Age of Idiocy is upon us.

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