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kentuck

(111,089 posts)
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 09:29 AM Sep 2019

Donald Trump has built a much larger "wall" than the one imagined on our Mexican border...

It is an invisible "wall".

He has divided our country in such a way that people of different Parties can no longer communicate.

It has become impossible to touch these folks with facts or the truth. They are untouchables.

The "wall" has already been built and it is much larger than anything built with stone or wire.

They cannot be persuaded. They do not see you and they do not hear you. If you are not behind the "wall" with them, then you do not exist.

It has become impossible to break thru. Any attempt to communicate seems like a waste of breath anymore.

There is an alternate reality that does not coincide with truth and facts as we know them. It is a fake world behind the "wall".

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Donald Trump has built a much larger "wall" than the one imagined on our Mexican border... (Original Post) kentuck Sep 2019 OP
I have tried to penetrate the wall with people whom I thought were rational and intelligent... kentuck Sep 2019 #1
Anti-intellectualism has always been rocktivity Sep 2019 #2
Fuck...we are so far past the last "early warning sign" Bettie Sep 2019 #11
It's a cult cutroot Sep 2019 #3
Anything less than total subservience to the master rocktivity Sep 2019 #5
They will never admit to it cutroot Sep 2019 #7
"More people trust Fox" ... OBEY ... lambchopp59 Sep 2019 #4
They defended Bush/Cheney samplegirl Sep 2019 #15
The division started before trump, and I am not defending him Perseus Sep 2019 #6
And colleges too. Have strayed from Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2019 #10
That is amazing...yeap, no snow in Florida, one would think that even a HS kid would know that Perseus Sep 2019 #14
They have been demonizing and dehumanizing us. MasonDreams Sep 2019 #8
Yes, unfortunately you are right. It's like the basic Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2019 #13
They are blinded by hate Tennessee Hillbilly Sep 2019 #9
Kentuck..this post is so true. Living in a red state now Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2019 #12

kentuck

(111,089 posts)
1. I have tried to penetrate the wall with people whom I thought were rational and intelligent...
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 10:33 AM
Sep 2019

..but I have not been successful.

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
2. Anti-intellectualism has always been
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 12:09 PM
Sep 2019

one of early warning signs of facism:

1. Powerful and continuing nationalism
2. Disdain for human rights
3. Identification of enemies as a unifying cause
4. Rampant sexism
5. Controlled mass media
6. Obsession with national security
7. Religion and government intertwined
8. Corporate power protected
9. Labor power suppressed
10. Disdain for intellectualism and the arts
11. Obsession with crime and punishment
12. Rampant cronyism and corruption


rocktivity

Bettie

(16,095 posts)
11. Fuck...we are so far past the last "early warning sign"
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 09:08 AM
Sep 2019

every time I see this list, it makes me nervous and sad.

It also reminds me that the House of Representatives is our last line of defense and they should be speaking in a loud unified voice that this is NOT ACCEPTABLE.

By the next election, it may be too late.

cutroot

(875 posts)
3. It's a cult
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 12:13 PM
Sep 2019

They believe that they are winning and that anything less than total subservience to the master is weakness

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
5. Anything less than total subservience to the master
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 01:19 PM
Sep 2019

also forces you to admit to yourself that you've been so wrong for so long.


rocktivity

cutroot

(875 posts)
7. They will never admit to it
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 02:56 PM
Sep 2019

They will attempt to dismiss the allegations as conspiracy as they have done with bush Reagan and Nixon.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
6. The division started before trump, and I am not defending him
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 02:55 PM
Sep 2019

But republicans have been dividing the country for a long time, this is not new.

These things do not happen over night, the creature is the result of all the hate, lies, filth that republicans have been spewing for many years, and the level of ignorance in the country. republicans understood, a long time ago, that in order for them to carry on with their agenda, which does not include "making America great", was through ignorance and division. It is not by chance that republicans have been weakening the education system, of course its two-fold for them, one is to disrupt education to have more ignorant people who will believe their lies, and two to put more money in their pockets through charter schools.

But this division is not exclusive to the creature, that he has made it worst? yes, of course he has, but this is a long republican strategy. "United we stand, divided we fall". Can't get easier than that.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
10. And colleges too. Have strayed from
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 09:05 AM
Sep 2019

the practice of requiring that the first two years be a liberal arts foundational base? Regardless of major? Republicans may have nothing to do with it. But I can see the difference. An "only learn what you have to learn" mentality - does not foster a quest for knowledge and an open mind.

My niece just graduated with honors in math and literally thought that Chicago was a state. And didn't realize it didn't snow in Florida.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
14. That is amazing...yeap, no snow in Florida, one would think that even a HS kid would know that
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 07:32 PM
Sep 2019

Something big has to happen, the mindset of the people has to change, needs to become more progressive.

MasonDreams

(756 posts)
8. They have been demonizing and dehumanizing us.
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 07:16 PM
Sep 2019

And they will continue until the word Holocaust is synonymous with cleaning house. I have seen the unholy maggots that feast on the human brain. Sorry you had to read that, sometimes I get in a really bad mood.

Please call me out, if it is not true.

I have visited the nests where they breed, and I am scared. Never get out of the boat.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
13. Yes, unfortunately you are right. It's like the basic
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 09:31 AM
Sep 2019

shared values have disappeared. It is not a good thing to care about your fellow man anymore.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
12. Kentuck..this post is so true. Living in a red state now
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 09:21 AM
Sep 2019

And it is definitely true that most people can not be convinced. And I am not talking about unintelligent people either. I am talking bright people who are sharp in many other aspects of their life. It's like a certain part of their psyche has been brainwashed and there is zero awareness or ability to test or research information. There is also an anger associated with it too.

I was in a meeting yesterday with a couple otherwise very sharp people. I said I wanted to go home to watch the rest of the Impeachment hearings. And anger rose. And then "I would consider voting for a Democrat is there was a single thing that they ever did to help the American people!". A statement that could easily be disproved with 5 minutes of research.

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