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Today's impeachment hearing was a disaster. (Original Post) wasupaloopa Sep 2019 OP
Didn't look like a disaster to me Ohioboy Sep 2019 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2019 #29
Calling on Nadler. zentrum Sep 2019 #2
Post removed Post removed Sep 2019 #17
I don't see it like that Siwsan Sep 2019 #3
Nah. TwilightZone Sep 2019 #4
Thank you empedocles Sep 2019 #10
Just stop. BumRushDaShow Sep 2019 #5
No you quit telling people what to think and say! It is getting pretty bad here wasupaloopa Sep 2019 #20
Here - watch this BumRushDaShow Sep 2019 #21
Seems to be a lot of that going around. Tipperary Sep 2019 #26
Democratic, not democrat leadership. pwb Sep 2019 #27
What are you taking about? Who said Democrat? wasupaloopa Sep 2019 #38
"You stop!" Iggo Sep 2019 #37
lol eShirl Sep 2019 #6
My sentiments, exactly. GoCubsGo Sep 2019 #11
Respectfully disagree. H2O Man Sep 2019 #7
Did you watch the same hearing I did? shraby Sep 2019 #8
What real effect will today's hearing have? wasupaloopa Sep 2019 #22
The only thing that made it a disaster is that the republicans have no interest in the truth Ohioboy Sep 2019 #9
L. was informed at the end of the first part of the hearing that there is NO privilege available shraby Sep 2019 #12
Did we watch the same hearing? sellitman Sep 2019 #13
No wasupaloopa Sep 2019 #23
To what end though? Anyone taking the time to watch something like that knows who they're voting for MadDAsHell Sep 2019 #28
:) Courage. Remember, we not only don't really understand Hortensis Sep 2019 #14
Disaster for whom? kentuck Sep 2019 #15
Clearly malaise Sep 2019 #18
Tell me was the ball moved toward the goal ? wasupaloopa Sep 2019 #24
Yes Ohioboy Sep 2019 #32
We must've been watching two different hearings Sunsky Sep 2019 #16
Thank you for your concern. nt Lisa0825 Sep 2019 #19
What did we gain? Are we any better off than if there was no hearing today? wasupaloopa Sep 2019 #25
Perhaps you should find a hobby other than politics StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #30
A lot was gained. A lot was put into the record, damaging contradictory stuff. Ohioboy Sep 2019 #31
Geez, you always seem dissatisfied with everything Dems do. blm Sep 2019 #33
What's that I hear in the distance? Hotler Sep 2019 #34
Methinks snowybirdie Sep 2019 #35
lol mahina Sep 2019 #36

Ohioboy

(3,238 posts)
1. Didn't look like a disaster to me
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 05:00 PM
Sep 2019

It looked like a lot of republicans obstructing and obfuscating. It also looked like Lewdanowski in a hot seat.



Response to Ohioboy (Reply #1)

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
2. Calling on Nadler.
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 05:04 PM
Sep 2019

From the DailyKos staff:

But the first two hours of the hearing showed that Lewandowski was going to give no cooperation, that Republicans on the committee were going to do everything possible to derail the proceedings, and that, for any impeachment inquiry to move forward, committee Chair Jerry Nadler is going to need to adopt a much tougher attitude toward uncooperative witnesses.


The Democrats are going to have come up with a tougher plan.

Response to zentrum (Reply #2)

 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
20. No you quit telling people what to think and say! It is getting pretty bad here
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 08:30 PM
Sep 2019

There are even OPs telling people what not to say. You stop!

pwb

(11,246 posts)
27. Democratic, not democrat leadership.
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 08:40 PM
Sep 2019

I am good with people saying Stop. If you keep up with the right wing dings.

 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
38. What are you taking about? Who said Democrat?
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 11:06 PM
Sep 2019

Now you are putting words where they aren’t.

Some people are on some mighty high horses.


We are supposed to change minds in our favor with hearings. This one turned people against us!

You can bury your head and pretend things are going well for impeachment but at some point we will have to stop pinning our hopes on what will never be and get with the business of winning big in 2020!

shraby

(21,946 posts)
8. Did you watch the same hearing I did?
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 05:07 PM
Sep 2019

Lewandowski is getting nailed to the wall. He's got the look of a trapped animal on his face, the women are calling him out on his lies.

 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
22. What real effect will today's hearing have?
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 08:32 PM
Sep 2019

Did we teach the public anything it didn’t know? That was the purpose right?

Is trump in anymore danger that he was yesterday?


Will other witnesses be called and will they cooperate based on today’s hearing?

Ohioboy

(3,238 posts)
9. The only thing that made it a disaster is that the republicans have no interest in the truth
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 05:09 PM
Sep 2019

What a bunch of crooked lying turds.

shraby

(21,946 posts)
12. L. was informed at the end of the first part of the hearing that there is NO privilege available
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 05:15 PM
Sep 2019

when being questioned about illegal acts. That was established during Nixon's hearings.

That shoots down L.'s little note from Trump about what he can and cannot say.

 

MadDAsHell

(2,067 posts)
28. To what end though? Anyone taking the time to watch something like that knows who they're voting for
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 08:42 PM
Sep 2019

Anyone who's undecided probably isn't watching CSPAN mid-morning on a Tuesday. Nor are they likely to even know who Corey Lewandowski is, or what his connection to Trump is.

I'm not saying don't try, but again the only people getting particularly excited about these types of hearings made up their minds before the hearings even began, anyways.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
14. :) Courage. Remember, we not only don't really understand
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 05:17 PM
Sep 2019

how this game is played, we don't even know where the ball is. Or if it's a ball. Or how many whatever it is are. And we only guess and disagree about what our end goal even is, or how long the game is expected to last.

Meanwhile, the announcers, who also are largely in the dark, are lying to us because they serve their employers, not us.

kentuck

(111,052 posts)
15. Disaster for whom?
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 05:18 PM
Sep 2019

You obviously did not watch the same hearing that I am watching.

I think you made a premature judgement.

Ohioboy

(3,238 posts)
32. Yes
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 08:57 PM
Sep 2019

If the goal is getting the truth into the record, the ball has most certainly been moved toward the goal!

Sunsky

(1,737 posts)
16. We must've been watching two different hearings
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 05:18 PM
Sep 2019

unless you mean disaster for Trump and the newly formed Senate candidate Lewandowski.

 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
25. What did we gain? Are we any better off than if there was no hearing today?
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 08:39 PM
Sep 2019

What did we teach the public? That is the purpose right? We have hearings and the public turns on trump remember? Did anyone turn on trump today because of the hearing?

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
30. Perhaps you should find a hobby other than politics
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 08:49 PM
Sep 2019

Something that can provide you much more short-term satisfaction and allow you to see immediate results on a daily or even hourly basis. You seem to lack the attention span and patience necessary for politics where things don't turn around on a dime or in a day...

Ohioboy

(3,238 posts)
31. A lot was gained. A lot was put into the record, damaging contradictory stuff.
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 08:54 PM
Sep 2019

The Dems are methodically setting up the case, and doing it rather well so far. If you can't see it that's sad.

snowybirdie

(5,219 posts)
35. Methinks
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 09:04 PM
Sep 2019

this is exactly what Nancy Pelosi is concerned about. She knows these people and thinks voting him out is the best option.

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