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demtenjeep

(31,997 posts)
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 09:50 PM Sep 2019

I am holding on to hope until 2020 but ....if the unthinkable happens-then what?

if the lunatic remains in office and the R keep the senate they will take that as a demand to continue the way things are going.


I fear if that happens America really will be over as we know it...

When the primary is over, whomever our candidate is I will fight hard for them EVEN if it wasn't my person. Also, for grampa Robert's replacement and any other D's in my area.

We all have to give it our all and hope that it is enough in 2020.


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I am holding on to hope until 2020 but ....if the unthinkable happens-then what? (Original Post) demtenjeep Sep 2019 OP
Life, I suppose, goes on. sandensea Sep 2019 #1
we really have no other choice demtenjeep Sep 2019 #2
Not to worry... Bernie's got this!! InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2019 #3
I feel so much better now. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2019 #4
Really? dhol82 Sep 2019 #5
Yes, really... just watch. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2019 #18
"if that happens America really will be over as we know it." PoliticAverse Sep 2019 #6
Because they won't stop him zipplewrath Sep 2019 #7
The majority of things Trump & the Republicans would like to do require the passage of bills... PoliticAverse Sep 2019 #10
He'll just do it by fiat zipplewrath Sep 2019 #11
I SWEAR TO GAWD I WILL KILL MYSELF.... a kennedy Sep 2019 #8
People will move to a different country BigmanPigman Sep 2019 #9
... jcgoldie Sep 2019 #12
then it will be even worse. you are correct barbtries Sep 2019 #13
4 six gallon tanks of gas safeinOhio Sep 2019 #14
Americans survived genocide, slavery, Jim Crow laws, the 1918 epidemic, wars...as people in emmaverybo Sep 2019 #15
If that happens then I don't think I ever really understood the concept of America. NCLefty Sep 2019 #16
That is meIt is so hard to teach how it is SUPPOSED to work when it so clearly is not demtenjeep Sep 2019 #21
The following would happen Buckeyeblue Sep 2019 #17
Game over. I'll just watch it all fall apart as long as I can Crunchy Frog Sep 2019 #19
We will have 1 and only 1 real chance to remove Trump from office and that's to beat him next year. elocs Sep 2019 #20
It won't happen. Trump is a total liar. Trump will lose or may not run. Stuart G Sep 2019 #22

sandensea

(21,621 posts)
1. Life, I suppose, goes on.
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 09:54 PM
Sep 2019

For what it's worth my guess is that, if re-elected, Cheeto would kick the bucket very shortly afterwards due to his own basket-case health.

So I imagine we'd be stuck with President Dense Pence (wither the thought!).

In short - and as you know - we must win this one.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
3. Not to worry... Bernie's got this!!
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 09:58 PM
Sep 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!! or
Elizabeth & Bernie 2020!!
Either way, welcome to the revolution!!!

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
18. Yes, really... just watch.
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 05:53 PM
Sep 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!! or
Elizabeth & Bernie 2020!!
Either way, welcome to the revolution!!!

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
6. "if that happens America really will be over as we know it."
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 10:12 PM
Sep 2019

They weren't able to end America "as we know it" when they had the House and Senate why would they if things continue as they are now with Democrats controlling the House?

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
7. Because they won't stop him
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 10:19 PM
Sep 2019

The problem here is that this man has no respect for the constitution and the GOP senate will not stop him at all. There will be no veto overrides nor any impeachments. And with no follow on election of which to consider he will just do whatever he wishes and no one will be able to stop him.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
10. The majority of things Trump & the Republicans would like to do require the passage of bills...
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 10:30 PM
Sep 2019

and they couldn't even repeal the ACA when they had the House and Senate.

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
9. People will move to a different country
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 10:23 PM
Sep 2019

and others will kill themselves. Possibly someone will have had enough of his BS and go after him themselves with anything available to them. I am being realistic. It will not be pretty.

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
13. then it will be even worse. you are correct
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 10:44 PM
Sep 2019

i guess we'll all have to choose then what we do in the event. i swore in Nov2016 that i will not be a good german, so the die is cast for me. RESIST to the end.

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
15. Americans survived genocide, slavery, Jim Crow laws, the 1918 epidemic, wars...as people in
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 11:21 PM
Sep 2019

other countries have survived the Holocaust, Stalin, communist invasions, apartheid, as Kashmir has survived the loss of 100,000 in the past 18 years...we will fight. We will hold on to the shards of democracy and fight as we fought the Vietnam war. As Indians fought for independence, as Rwandan survivors fight for justice and to find a way to live among the killers of their families.

It will be terrible, but we will stay and fight for the migrant families, for those who can’t fight for themselves. Go to another country? We will all want to, but if we all go, who is left to fight for the ones who can’t?

Our democracy is not worth fighting for?

We will survive and we will fight.

NCLefty

(3,678 posts)
16. If that happens then I don't think I ever really understood the concept of America.
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 11:25 PM
Sep 2019

... what it was sold to me as, what I learned in school growing up here. That, or we're just really off track right now.

In any case, if it can be steered in this direction, it can be steered back. That's a lot of work and we might not see the rewards in our lives but we'll have to try.

 

demtenjeep

(31,997 posts)
21. That is meIt is so hard to teach how it is SUPPOSED to work when it so clearly is not
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 07:13 PM
Sep 2019

Kids are paying attention to what we DO more than what we say

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
17. The following would happen
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 11:35 PM
Sep 2019

1. SC probably becomes 6-3 for the crazies
2. Abortion rights in many states would end
3. Marriage equality out the window
4. ACA would be damaged beyond repair
5. While no real legislation gets through, damage is done with even more tariffs
6. Federal judges continue to be confirmed
7. The administration continues to ignore the rule of law
8. Environmental standards continue to be eroded
9. The Russians continue unchecked
10. NATO might not survive or the Dreamers

Would the country survive? Who knows. Probably. We have two big coasts that make trade easy. But the country would be battered.

Crunchy Frog

(26,579 posts)
19. Game over. I'll just watch it all fall apart as long as I can
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 06:11 PM
Sep 2019

And hope my kids will be able to eventually get out.

elocs

(22,566 posts)
20. We will have 1 and only 1 real chance to remove Trump from office and that's to beat him next year.
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 07:09 PM
Sep 2019

If not, the America as we know it is over. It's as simple as that.
So no pouting because your candidate did not get the nomination and no purity tests--everybody supports and votes for the nominee of the Democratic Party.

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
22. It won't happen. Trump is a total liar. Trump will lose or may not run.
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 08:08 PM
Sep 2019

He is a mean, vicious, liar. If he runs, he looses. Everyone knows what he is, who he is... If he resigns, maybe Pence will win, but there will be a better chance of a snowball in hell.
...Most..say 60-65 percent hate, abhor, dislike, despise, and are repulsed by him. Trump will not win.. Who knows what dirt will be exposed in the next year or so. Trump cannot, will not win. If he takes over illegally, there will be a way to remove him. He won't do that either. He may announce in Jan or February that he is not running. Trump is not well, and his family knows it.

...I do not think he will run for reelection. But I don't know nothing.. I have been wrong before, and will be wrong again. but I am saying this now. And we will see.

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