Inside Conservative Groups' Effort to 'Make Dishwashers Great Again'

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

Of all the conservative efforts to persuade the Trump administration to weaken the nation’s environmental rules, the dishwasher lobby might be the most peculiar.

“Dishwashers used to clean a full load of filthy dishes in under an hour. But now they take an average of two and a half hours and STILL leave dishes dirty!” reads one online petition promoted by FreedomWorks, a libertarian offshoot of a group co-founded by the late David H. Koch and his brother Charles Koch, who made their fortune in fossil fuels. The decline of American dishwashers, the site says, is “all thanks to crazy environmentalist rules.”

The petition, titled “Make Dishwashers Great Again,” is just one part of a broad campaign coordinated by conservative organizations with ties to fossil-fuel companies. Trump administration emails made public as part of a lawsuit filed by the Sierra Club shed new light on the effort, designed to persuade the Trump administration to weaken standards on a long list of home appliances.

One such email, sent in June 2018 to supporters of the Competitive Enterprise Institute, a libertarian think tank, urged them to write to the Department of Energy supporting the creation of “a new class of ‘fast dishwashers’ that can complete a cycle in an hour or less.”

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[gldstwmn]

1. I have a Bosch. It uses less water and cleans

just fine. There isn't even a heating element. Maybe these folks could spend their time shopping for a better dishwasher? Try using Cascade? Better still they could buy more dishes. It would stimulate the economy.

[Skittles]

2. I have never used a dishwasher

I find it faster and more convenient to wash 'em by hand

[maxsolomon]

10. How would you know if you've never used one?

I started out washing dishes for our family of 6 when I was 12. It sucked.

Dishwashers are fan fucking tastic.

[Skittles]

11. well OK I loaded one a couple of times

bailed when I realized I'd have to unload it too (bf did it) - what a pain, I hated it

andby the way I washed dishes for a family of more than 6, and I started younger than 12!

[maxsolomon]

12. i did it uphill both ways, in a snowstorm!

with a mouth full of porcupine quills.

[Skittles]

16. um, we just did not have a dishwasher!

SHEESH

[gratuitous]

13. We just remodeled our kitchen

We installed a Bosch dishwasher, because eventually when we sell the house, you gotta have a dishwasher. I'd done the dishes by hand for years up until then. ONE TIME through the Bosch, and our dishes came out sparkling. 40 year old Pyrex casseroles and Corelle dishes came out looking like they looked on the store shelves all those years ago.

With just the two of us, we run the dishwasher two, maybe three times a week. Start the cycle just as you're heading out the door to work or climbing into bed*, and who cares that it takes two hours?

This jihad against dishwashers sounds every bit as stupid as their jihad against incandescent bulbs.

*It runs so quietly there's a floor light on it to let you know it's running.

[Skittles]

15. OH for heaven's sake

I AM NOT PART OF A JIHAD

I JUST DON'T USE DISHWASHERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[gratuitous]

17. I didn't mean to infer that you were

If you're happy washing dishes by hand, by all means continue. I was talking about the nincompoops at the Competitive Enterprise Institute who have decided that this is the hill they want to die on, right next to Sarah Palin clutching her incandescent bulbs.

I was just relating my experience - similar to yours - that I washed the dishes by hand for years. Decades, even. Neither I nor Mrs. gratuitous were particularly eager to get a dishwasher, but we have been pleasantly surprised and gratified by the results.

[OnDoutside]

14. My friend insisted that they didn't have a dishwasher, so his wife said that's ok as long as you do

the all dishwashing

They recently got a dishwasher.

We've had one for 20 years, and I wouldn't do without it.

[Volaris]

3. I dont care if they're not done till tomorrow morning...as long as the machine

is doing the work, and not me, I couldn't care less how long it takes.

I'm not opposed to handwashing dishes..I did it enough as a kid that I got really really good at it lol.

But if there's an option for me to spend 500 bucks and never have to do that again well....YEAH, that's the option I'm going to take.

[gldstwmn]

4. Agree. I do the pots and pans by hand

because the manufacturer says to do then that way but everything else goes in the dishwasher.

[Volaris]

6. Lol no in my house everything goes in that machine...

And if it isn't clean when the cycles done, it gets run again.

I have a friend who hates doing dishes sooooo much she's considering purchasing a used commercial/restautant style drop-down -door dish machine when she re models her kitchen...JUST so she knows she wont have to re wash anything heh...

[GReedDiamond]

5. I have an "On Demand" dishwashing system...

...my girlfriend says "when you gonna wash your fuckin dishes?"

[gldstwmn]

7. Haha...

[Kid Berwyn]

8. Money in Politics

Bakes-in the Grease, if you know what I Astroturfing mean.

[Initech]

9. They fight some weird battles.

We are fighting to live life without the possibility of getting shot, they're fighting for the rights of... dishwashers? And this weird car emissions rollback that nobody wants?