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Doesn't a whistleblower usually blow the whistle on (Original Post) boston bean Sep 2019 OP
Why can't Rachel just call it what it is? TREASON nt DURHAM D Sep 2019 #1
Yes it is clearly treason malaise Sep 2019 #2
We can't say that without knowing what it was. And "treason" has a very specific meaning: NCLefty Sep 2019 #5
If this turns out to be what they say kacekwl Sep 2019 #3
My guess is it is related to relieving sanctions over annexing crimea jcgoldie Sep 2019 #4

NCLefty

(3,678 posts)
5. We can't say that without knowing what it was. And "treason" has a very specific meaning:
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 02:32 AM
Sep 2019
"Treasonous acts may be criminal, but criminal acts are almost never treason. As Article III, Section 3 of the Constitution specifies, 'Treason against the United States shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort.' The Founders went out of their way to define treason narrowly because they knew how it had been repeatedly abused in the past."

"Thus, to ensure that treason could not likewise be co-opted for political or personal purposes, the Constitution’s drafters not only defined it precisely (it’s the only offense specifically defined in that document), but also specified that 'No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.' (Article III also limits the punishment that can be inflicted, even with a conviction.)"

"As a federal appeals court explained in 1986: '[t]he reason for the restrictive definition is apparent from the historical backdrop of the treason clause. The framers of the Constitution were reluctant to facilitate such prosecutions because they were well aware of abuses, and they themselves were traitors in the eyes of England.' As a result, treason is, in some respects, the most specific crime in our legal system — and certainly among the hardest to prove. It’s also the only crime that can be used as the basis for expatriating a natural-born American citizen."


https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/americans-have-forgotten-what-treason-actually-means-how-it-can-ncna848651

kacekwl

(7,016 posts)
3. If this turns out to be what they say
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 10:15 PM
Sep 2019

it is then this is or should be especially from the president of the United States a hanging offence. I will wait to hold my breath.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
4. My guess is it is related to relieving sanctions over annexing crimea
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 10:21 PM
Sep 2019

Complaint was 8/12. The call with Putin was July 31 and the G7 shit where he blamed Obama was like 8/20?

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