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Me.

(35,454 posts)
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 11:05 AM Sep 2019

"Ice Cold": Trump Distances Himself From Netanyahu After Election"

Serves Netanhu right, this has been a long time coming, especially after the way he treated PBO.

“Benjamin Netanyahu is learning the hard way that Donald Trump is a fair-weather friend. The right-wing Israeli prime minister had been among the president’s few steadfast friends on the world stage; Trump, in turn, has long stood strong with Netanyahu. But after Bibi appeared to suffer a stinging loss in the Israeli elections this week, Trump did what he always does when his buds fall on tough times and can no longer benefit him personally: He distanced himself from his embattled friend, appearing to downplay a relationship that Netanyahu made central to his reelection pitch to voters.

“Our relations are with Israel,” Trump told reporters Wednesday, deemphasizing Netanyahu’s significance to the alliance after the prime minister failed to establish a conservative majority. “So we’ll see what happens.”

It was a notable turn for Trump, who has cast Netanyahu as his “good friend.” He’s tacked close to the prime minister, taking a number of Netanyahu-friendly actions as president—including recognizing the Golan Heights as part of Israel and moving the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem—and offering up his full-throated endorsement in last April’s election. “The United States is with him and the People of Israel all the way!” Trump tweeted at the time. Netanyahu, in turn, has lavished praise on Trump, saying that Israel has “never had a better friend” and even naming a planned settlement Trump Heights, playing into the president’s well-established enthusiasm for seeing his name on things.”

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/09/trump-distances-himself-from-netanyahu-after-election

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"Ice Cold": Trump Distances Himself From Netanyahu After Election" (Original Post) Me. Sep 2019 OP
Status of election? cilla4progress Sep 2019 #1
As Of Now Me. Sep 2019 #4
Awesome! cilla4progress Sep 2019 #6
Trump to reporters: madaboutharry Sep 2019 #2
Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah malaise Sep 2019 #13
"Was he one of my coffee boys at some point?" nt Blue_true Sep 2019 #37
Dotard is pulling a Larry Tate on Bibi, eh? The Genealogist Sep 2019 #3
Just saw an update in WAPO. cilla4progress Sep 2019 #5
"I hardly knew him - I only met him a few times." The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2019 #7
"Don't know him but they say he's naming a settlement after me." lunatica Sep 2019 #42
I dunno. Maybe Bibi's internal pollsters told him that his association with Trump Tanuki Sep 2019 #8
Except that this is Trump after the election. Caliman73 Sep 2019 #17
Trump and Bibi....Birds of a Feather, except when they are NOT..... ProudMNDemocrat Sep 2019 #9
This is a game changer for Wellstone ruled Sep 2019 #15
I Hope This Is An OMen Me. Sep 2019 #22
Hate the player... Scurrilous Sep 2019 #10
About Time Tillerson Started Talking Me. Sep 2019 #19
An astute DUer has guessed it's Bibi that SHITLER promised to go to war with Iran UTUSN Sep 2019 #11
It's a lot more likely it's mbs. Mosby Sep 2019 #18
we can hope that Netanyahu returns the favor Fresh_Start Sep 2019 #12
Didn't the Con just tell us that Bibi wasn't spying on him in DC malaise Sep 2019 #14
What A Fool Me. Sep 2019 #20
Remember now that (according to the Con and ReTHUGs) it is PBO's fault malaise Sep 2019 #24
Of Course It Is...He Never Takes Responsibility For Anything Me. Sep 2019 #27
Maybe Netanyahu is the guy Trump made the promise to Mike 03 Sep 2019 #16
I was thinking this, rusty fender Sep 2019 #30
Recommended. H2O Man Sep 2019 #21
What A Difference A Day Makes...Eh? Me. Sep 2019 #23
Between that and H2O Man Sep 2019 #28
They're all the same. When you're useful, you're useful. nolabear Sep 2019 #25
"I like Prime Ministers who don't lose Elections" brooklynite Sep 2019 #26
"Horseface is not my type." Hortensis Sep 2019 #29
OMG...I Cannot Unsee That Me. Sep 2019 #33
Yep. Definitely a projectile puke moment. nt Blue_true Sep 2019 #38
I just saw a headline that the US is seeking a coalition to deal with Iran captain queeg Sep 2019 #31
"We'll see what happens" Docreed2003 Sep 2019 #32
Netanya-Who? eleny Sep 2019 #34
Dump made a promise to Bibi he could not keep. crazytown Sep 2019 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author Me. Sep 2019 #36
trump is loyal only to trump spanone Sep 2019 #39
bibi who? "never met him before mshasta Sep 2019 #40
Wow. Who could possibly have seen that coming? Captain Stern Sep 2019 #41

Me.

(35,454 posts)
4. As Of Now
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 11:11 AM
Sep 2019

There are calls for a National Unity Government. Netanyahu wants to be co-PM and share the power but Gantz and the Blue & Whites are having none of that. They want a unity gov. but without bibi. Also, bibi will have to face the charges against him in 2 weeks time.

cilla4progress

(24,726 posts)
5. Just saw an update in WAPO.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 11:13 AM
Sep 2019

Great to have this bloviator Netanyahu go down.

Hooray for Israelis! New center-left guv. Hope its prescient for US coming up!

Tanuki

(14,918 posts)
8. I dunno. Maybe Bibi's internal pollsters told him that his association with Trump
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 11:19 AM
Sep 2019

is a turn-off to a segment of the Israeli electorate and he instructed him to back up a bit. I never take anything at face value anymore.

Caliman73

(11,730 posts)
17. Except that this is Trump after the election.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 12:17 PM
Sep 2019

The election has been over for 2 days. Trump said this yesterday when it appeared that Benny Gantz's lead was holding. Perhaps if something turns around and Netanyahu manages to find more votes, Trump will be his "best friend" again.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,783 posts)
9. Trump and Bibi....Birds of a Feather, except when they are NOT.....
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 11:20 AM
Sep 2019

Last edited Thu Sep 19, 2019, 02:27 PM - Edit history (1)

Netanyahu faces criminal charges of corruption and will not have the cover of a title to keep him out of an Israeli prison. Trump sees this and fears that if he loses BIG in 2020, he too will share the same fate.


Another thought just came to mind....Trump lost an ally in which to go to war with Iran . Israel will defend itself, but it will not be firing first. They will fire if Iran fires first, and NOT at the insistence of Trump to justify a war with Iran.

Doesn't take a Secretary of State to figure that one out.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
15. This is a game changer for
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 12:01 PM
Sep 2019

the whole Middle East.

Noticed yesterday that none of the Saudi's Spox's never mentioned retaliation only to push ARAMCO IPO as well as their ability to meet Oil Market demands.

But,our End Timers Pence and Pompeo are all in for bomb bomb Iran crap. Interesting comment came from Japan's Foriegn Service person stating Iran was not the one launching that Saudi Attack. And it had a Yemen connection.

Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)
10. Hate the player...
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 11:27 AM
Sep 2019
Netanyahu Used 'Misinformation' to Persuade Trump, Says Tillerson

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"U.S. President Donald Trump's first secretary of state, Rex Tillerson, spoke at Harvard on Tuesday during a 90-minute panel interview with Harvard professors, giving assessments of various world leaders - including Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

Tillerson, who had a contentious tenure as the U.S.’s top diplomat, said that Netanyahu is “an extraordinarily skilled” politician and diplomat, but “a bit Machiavellian.” He continued, saying that “In dealing with Bibi, it’s always useful to carry a healthy amount of skepticism in your discussions with him.”

Tillerson, who first formed relationships with many world leaders while CEO of Exxon Mobile and served as secretary of state from February 1, 2017 to March 31, 2018, even recounted how Netanyahu would use “misinformation” to persuade the U.S. when he deemed it necessary.

“They did that with the president on a couple of occasions, to persuade him that ‘We’re the good guys, they’re the bad guys.’ We later exposed it to the president so he understood, ‘You’ve been played,’” said Tillerson."




https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/tillerson-says-netanyahu-used-misinformation-to-persuade-trump-1.7865372

malaise

(268,930 posts)
14. Didn't the Con just tell us that Bibi wasn't spying on him in DC
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 11:57 AM
Sep 2019

when all the evidence showed just that.

malaise

(268,930 posts)
24. Remember now that (according to the Con and ReTHUGs) it is PBO's fault
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 12:43 PM
Sep 2019

that the Russians helped the Con steal the elections from Hillary.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
27. Of Course It Is...He Never Takes Responsibility For Anything
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 12:50 PM
Sep 2019

what a weak, bully...he will get his. I hope the Netanyahu loss (win for us) has both he and Jared scared to death.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
16. Maybe Netanyahu is the guy Trump made the promise to
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 12:07 PM
Sep 2019

and now he's blowing him off, kind of like he "barely knew" Michael Cohen or Manafort after the s#$% hit the fan.

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
21. Recommended.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 12:35 PM
Sep 2019

My son and I were laughing about this last night. It's not funny, of course. But some times you have to laugh.

nolabear

(41,959 posts)
25. They're all the same. When you're useful, you're useful.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 12:47 PM
Sep 2019

45 and his ilk, including his darling Bibi, would eat one another on live TV if they thought it would get them more power.

captain queeg

(10,171 posts)
31. I just saw a headline that the US is seeking a coalition to deal with Iran
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 01:12 PM
Sep 2019

He’s going to find out none of the allies we’ve always been able to count on are not going to join up with him. He’s consistently shit on them and buddied up to dictators. His coalition will be the US and Saudi Arabia. Maybe the U.K., Johnson will be trying to incur favor. Hard to say about Israel, we’ve joined at the hip for a long time, but no one trusts Trump.

Docreed2003

(16,858 posts)
32. "We'll see what happens"
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 01:18 PM
Sep 2019

Not to derail the thread but I'm about as tired of hearing that line out of Trumps mouth as I am "fake news". "We'll see what happens..." translation "I've got no clue about the question you as and I'm deflecting to avoid giving and even stupider answer"

Response to Me. (Original post)

mshasta

(2,108 posts)
40. bibi who? "never met him before
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 08:18 PM
Sep 2019

I don't talk to losers, he was just the coffee boy",
fake news...fake fake

Captain Stern

(2,201 posts)
41. Wow. Who could possibly have seen that coming?
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 08:47 PM
Sep 2019

Other than everybody, I mean.

donald trump doesn't like losers. Even if it's somebody he used to like when they weren't losers, he never liked them if it turns out they are losers.

Why...donald trump and Netanyahu were just casual acquintances (if trump ever even met him at all)

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