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Pluvious

(4,310 posts)
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 12:58 PM Sep 2019

SOMETHING STRANGE IS HAPPENING TO GREENLAND'S ICE SHEET

As the ice slabs continue to spread, the study’s authors predict more and more of Greenland’s surface will become a “runoff zone,” boosting the ice sheet’s contribution to global sea level rise and, perhaps, causing unexpected changes.

"We're watching an ice sheet rapidly transform its state in front of our eyes, which is terrifying," says lead study author Mike MacFerrin, a glaciologist at the University of Colorado, Boulder.


"We have never observed an ice sheet behaving this way before," Poinar says. "It’s unprecedented in human scientific history."


Shouldn't we at least erect some kind of monument with an encoded message explaining our refusal to stop the sabotage of our race's future ?

https://relay.nationalgeographic.com/proxy/distribution/public/amp/environment/2019/09/greenland-ice-getting-denser-thats-bad
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SOMETHING STRANGE IS HAPPENING TO GREENLAND'S ICE SHEET (Original Post) Pluvious Sep 2019 OP
If the trends continue... Newest Reality Sep 2019 #1
TRUTH! Mickju Sep 2019 #5
I'm with you paleotn Sep 2019 #9
That's it. Fuck ANYONE driving a car, truck or SUV with less than 30 mpg DemocracyMouse Sep 2019 #17
And BTW... DemocracyMouse Sep 2019 #19
Double the damage/halve the time Boomer Sep 2019 #21
I kind of think that way, too. Newest Reality Sep 2019 #23
K&R UTUSN Sep 2019 #2
Trump supporters say that all we need is LESS regulation and we will be safer world wide wally Sep 2019 #3
and more guns and more pickup trucks and lower gas mileage Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #4
And MOAR beautiful clean coal too !! Pluvious Sep 2019 #7
If Trump offered to buy me, I would get pissed and destructive too! beastie boy Sep 2019 #6
Monument (Plaque) is already in place PoliWrangler Sep 2019 #8
Thanks for sharing that Pluvious Sep 2019 #12
we continue to allow 87+ universities to support 260+ global warming-denying certainot Sep 2019 #10
cooling the gulf stream, causing a mini ice age in Europe, NA. nt yaesu Sep 2019 #11
As Al Gore tried to warn us not that long ago Pluvious Sep 2019 #13
Taking all of that weight from the ice off safeinOhio Sep 2019 #14
Maybe its that Greenland's skin is crawling from the possibility that Trump will buy it LiberalLovinLug Sep 2019 #15
Spent one year at Thule Air Base, Greenland. djacq Sep 2019 #16
The Monument was erected years ago... It's called a Seed Vault... MartyTheGreek Sep 2019 #18
We have screwed the pooch bigtime. lpbk2713 Sep 2019 #20
it's a tipping point. it's the feedback loop EveHammond13 Sep 2019 #22
We should support kids striking about climate change today Land Shark Sep 2019 #24

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
1. If the trends continue...
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 01:24 PM
Sep 2019

Last edited Thu Sep 19, 2019, 02:19 PM - Edit history (1)

I think it is going to just keep going this way. The process will continue to accelerate and feedback loops will continue to cycle, spin, rinse and repeat. What is predicted for thirty years down the line will come much faster than expected. I wouldn't be surprised if it becomes exponential.

We have had a heavy foot on the gas pedal for a long time and the pedal is to the metal and the road is finite. The big party is coming to an end. Everything comes and goes. Eat, drink and be merry for...

paleotn

(17,912 posts)
9. I'm with you
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 02:38 PM
Sep 2019

Usually I don’t lean very far to the negative side, except when it comes to human’s tendency to party on until reality slaps them in the face. Climate change and our inability change our ways falls into that category.

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
17. That's it. Fuck ANYONE driving a car, truck or SUV with less than 30 mpg
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 03:21 PM
Sep 2019

And if you're getting less than 25... go to hell. (Semi sarcasm!)

And if I'm unnerving anyone enough to consider buying a NEW car that runs on fossil fuels... well you piss me off too! Get an electric. Or move to a city and use trains and electric buses.

I'm being only semi-sarcastic... I'm that pissed.

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
19. And BTW...
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 03:26 PM
Sep 2019

Every roadside stop on the NJ Turnpike now has battery charging stations. If your state is BEHIND New Jersey.... fuck you too!

(all of the above is semi-sarcastic... I'm too pissed off to smother the point in 100% sarcasm... we MUST motivate change... and be semi-nice doing it!)

Boomer

(4,168 posts)
21. Double the damage/halve the time
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 03:35 PM
Sep 2019

Every time I hear a climate change prediction, I do that math calculation to what I consider a more realistic expectation.

If they say "add 3 inches to ocean levels by 2100" I translate that to "6 inches by 2050".

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
23. I kind of think that way, too.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 03:53 PM
Sep 2019

So, I tend to be not so surprised when we get the rather conservative, (for many reasons) reports from scientists.

An interesting thing to note about ocean levels is that there are two factors involved. One is the ice sheet melting, the other is thermal expansion. So, water is added by the melts, but the temperature increases also expand the water and we know they are warming. Weeee.

Pluvious

(4,310 posts)
12. Thanks for sharing that
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 02:54 PM
Sep 2019

It strikes me as a survival trait, that humans can live with our self denial with such ease.

This is how we endure - without going insane - the awearness of our own Mattia mortality.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
10. we continue to allow 87+ universities to support 260+ global warming-denying
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 02:42 PM
Sep 2019

limbaugh stations by broadcasting sports on them - all these universities are good places to protest until they find apolitical alternatives. they have no excuse

From republicanradio.org:

ALABAMA 8  Auburn 3, Alabama 2, Southern Alabama 2, Troy 1
ARIZONA 3 Arizona St. 2, Arizona 1
ARKANSAS 3 Arkansas 3
CALIFORNIA 5 San Jose State 2, USC 2, Fresno St. 1
COLORADO 4 Air Force 2, Colorado 1, Colorado State 1
CONNECTICUT 1 Connecticut 1
FLORIDA 20 Florida 10, Florida St. 4 Miami 2, South Florida 2, Central Florida 2
GEORGIA 14 Georgia 7, Georgia Tech 5, Georgia Southern 2
IDAHO 7  Boise St. 4, Idaho 3
ILLINOIS 7 Illinois 7
INDIANA 11 Notre Dame 6, Purdue 4, Indiana 1
IOWA 5 Iowa 4, Iowa St. 1
KANSAS 4 Kansas St. 2, Kansas 1, Wichita St. 1
KENTUCKY 3 Louisville 2, Kentucky 1
LOUSIANA 3 LSU 2, La.-Monroe 1
MARYLAND 2 Maryland 2
MASSACHUSETTS 1 Boston College 1
MICHIGAN 19 Michigan St. 11, Michigan 7, Western Michigan 1
MINNESOTA 4 Minnesota 4
MISSISSIPPI 6 Mississippi St. 3, Mississippi 2, Southern Miss 1
MISSOURI 6 Missouri 6
NEBRASKA 6 Nebraska 6
NEW JERSEY 2 Rutgers 1, Seton Hall 1
NEW MEXICO 3 New Mexico 2, New Mexico St. 1
NEW YORK 7 Syracuse 6, Army 1
NORTH CAROLINA 16 North Carolina 8, North Carolina State 3, Duke 3, East Carolina 2
OHIO 10 Ohio St. 6, Toledo 1, Dayton 1, Bowling Green 1, Xavier 1
OKLAHOMA 5 Oklahoma St. 3, Oklahoma 1, Oral Roberts 1
OREGON 12 Oregon St. 7, Oregon 5
PENNSYLVANIA 14 Penn St. 11, Pittsburgh 2, Temple 1
SOUTH CAROLINA 4 South Carolina 2, Clemson 2
TENNESSEE 7 Tennessee 4, Memphis 3
TEXAS 16 Texas A&M 9, Texas Tech 4, Texas 1, Texas Christian 1, Baylor 1
UTAH 1 Utah St. 1
VIRGINIA 6 Virginia Tech 5, Virginia 1
WASHINGTON 6 Washington 5, Washington St. 1
WEST VIRGINIA 2 West Virginia 1, Marshall 1
WISCONSIN 5 Wisconsin 5

Pluvious

(4,310 posts)
13. As Al Gore tried to warn us not that long ago
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 02:58 PM
Sep 2019

Back when we might've had a chance to do something in time .

safeinOhio

(32,674 posts)
14. Taking all of that weight from the ice off
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 03:08 PM
Sep 2019

of the land, earth quakes and volcanos may get very active.

djacq

(1,633 posts)
16. Spent one year at Thule Air Base, Greenland.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 03:15 PM
Sep 2019

A view of the ice shelf at any part of the Baffin Bay is uniquely majestic.

It'll be a tragic shame.

MartyTheGreek

(565 posts)
18. The Monument was erected years ago... It's called a Seed Vault...
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 03:23 PM
Sep 2019

And, now it's melting too! "Future Space explorers will one day find Earth and will discover a thin black line." They will call it The Humanity Period." "Maybe the Earth wanted plastic." George Carlin, RIP - Oops! The story was about Greenland, still confusing after all these years Vikings!

lpbk2713

(42,757 posts)
20. We have screwed the pooch bigtime.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 03:28 PM
Sep 2019


And I apologize to my grandchildren for the condition of the world my generation has left them.

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