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If Iran Denies Having Anything To Do With The SA Attacks Why Don't They..... (Original Post) global1 Sep 2019 OP
Do we know they have evidence of who did it? 33taw Sep 2019 #1
No - We Don't Know If They Have Evidence Of Who Did It But.... global1 Sep 2019 #15
so, i didn't rob the bank but i have to prove it? 5X Sep 2019 #2
No - more than that you have to prove who did malaise Sep 2019 #4
Huh? n/t malaise Sep 2019 #3
Well atreides1 Sep 2019 #5
Truth isn't relevant anymore Baked Potato Sep 2019 #6
They're lying sacks of Shiites n/t customerserviceguy Sep 2019 #7
Seriously? Bigotry is funny? marble falls Sep 2019 #10
Bigotry is not funny customerserviceguy Sep 2019 #11
A better question is why they bother denying it all. Act_of_Reparation Sep 2019 #8
Why should they have to provide evidence in an incident that happened in Saudi Arabia? marble falls Sep 2019 #9
If They Are Being Unjustly Accused Of This Attack..... global1 Sep 2019 #14
How would they be in possesion of any evidence at all? Why not ask Poland ... marble falls Sep 2019 #20
Maybe because they know they didn't do it Bettie Sep 2019 #12
You know the US has geostationary spy satellites over mideast ... GeorgeGist Sep 2019 #13
How or why would Iran have any evidence to provide? rurallib Sep 2019 #16
Again - Iran Being In The Area - They Might Have Some Surviellance Info As To Where The Attack Came. global1 Sep 2019 #17
IF I had the evidence sure. But that is a very big if rurallib Sep 2019 #18
Who stands to benefit from the attack? 33taw Sep 2019 #19
Your logic is off and questions like yours are essentially war mongering that PufPuf23 Sep 2019 #21
I Don't Follow Your Logic That A Quesion Like Mine Is War Mongering..... global1 Sep 2019 #23
I think you need to ask for a raise. ret5hd Sep 2019 #27
More like remedial logic. PufPuf23 Sep 2019 #30
Their logic is pretty ironclad TheRealNorth Sep 2019 #29
You are twisting what France and Japan have said. former9thward Sep 2019 #33
Disputing Trump claims, Japan says no evidence Iran was behind Saudi attack Autumn Sep 2019 #22
I doubt Japan has many intelligence assets in the Persian Gulf so not surprising. EX500rider Sep 2019 #25
They might not, but I trust them over the Orange Ass. Any day of the week. nt Autumn Sep 2019 #32
You can trust a country dependent on Iranian oil. former9thward Sep 2019 #34
dammint, onethatcares Sep 2019 #24
Time to attack Iceland! FBaggins Sep 2019 #26
Well, IF they SAID they didn't do it, then we should take them at their word Haggis for Breakfast Sep 2019 #28
Whuuuut????????? So, I didn't eat the donut, but I must find out who did? nt Blue_true Sep 2019 #31

global1

(25,224 posts)
15. No - We Don't Know If They Have Evidence Of Who Did It But....
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 03:23 PM
Sep 2019

they are in the area and they may have some sort of surveillance system that might suggest who did do it.

atreides1

(16,066 posts)
5. Well
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 02:27 PM
Sep 2019

So far the Japanese and the French have said they've seen no evidence that Iran launched the attack! And with the American intelligence agencies already politicized, along with most agencies in this administration...I'm not taking anything they report as being the truth!!!


customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
11. Bigotry is not funny
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 02:56 PM
Sep 2019

but puns are.

Who do you think had the means and the motive to do this? The Iranian mullahs and their puppet government have been a cancer on the world for over four decades now.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
8. A better question is why they bother denying it all.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 02:43 PM
Sep 2019

Iran supports Houthi rebels ostensibly at war with Saudi Arabia. Whoever carried out the attack is very likely tied to Iran, however indirectly.

global1

(25,224 posts)
14. If They Are Being Unjustly Accused Of This Attack.....
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 03:19 PM
Sep 2019

and they may have evidence as to who was behind the attack - shouldn't they try and clear their name and avoid some military confrontation?

marble falls

(57,010 posts)
20. How would they be in possesion of any evidence at all? Why not ask Poland ...
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 04:13 PM
Sep 2019

for evidence of who did it. Even the Saudis say they don't know Iran had anything to do with it.

I think American oil producers did it to jack prices up. Lets ask Mauritania to produce evidence.

Bettie

(16,071 posts)
12. Maybe because they know they didn't do it
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 02:58 PM
Sep 2019

but they don't know who did.

If I didn't rob the bank, it isn't on me to figure out or know who did it.

rurallib

(62,379 posts)
16. How or why would Iran have any evidence to provide?
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 03:23 PM
Sep 2019

I believe the burden of proof for providing evidence belongs to those making the accusation. Isn't that the way this is supposed to work?

global1

(25,224 posts)
17. Again - Iran Being In The Area - They Might Have Some Surviellance Info As To Where The Attack Came.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 03:28 PM
Sep 2019

from or who might have done the attack.

Even though the burden of proof for providing evidence belongs to those making the accusation - if you were innocent of something someone accused you of - and you had some sort of evidence that you didn't do it - wouldn't you want to provide proof of your innocence.

Would you risk a military confrontation if you were innocent?

rurallib

(62,379 posts)
18. IF I had the evidence sure. But that is a very big if
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 03:31 PM
Sep 2019

My next door neighbor shot himself one night after threatening his wife. I was in the area, but I had no evidence nor idea what he was doing.

PufPuf23

(8,755 posts)
21. Your logic is off and questions like yours are essentially war mongering that
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 04:54 PM
Sep 2019

enables the neo-con and neo-liberal war hawks.

France and Japan do not believe that Iran did the attack (and there must be some basis). Anything that Iran says or does in response is going to be twisted. We are responsible for allowing untrustworthy MSM and government in or country and believing them wholesale.

How can you (or anyone of sound mind) believe what the USA government or military says about such matters? Look at the lies and propaganda and total BS (Kuwaiti incubators, mobile chemical weapons labs, UBL's fortress of solitude at Tora Bora, etc.) that brought us into the various ME wars. We are the aggressor against Iran, Saudi is the aggressor against the Houthis in Yemen. We practiced aggressive war against Iraq, Libya, and Syria and abet the Saudis in their own war of aggression in Yemen.

global1

(25,224 posts)
23. I Don't Follow Your Logic That A Quesion Like Mine Is War Mongering.....
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 05:04 PM
Sep 2019

I'm just saying if Iran has evidence that they didn't do the bombing and know who did - why don't they provide it to prove their innocence. Why is that 'war mongering'?

PufPuf23

(8,755 posts)
30. More like remedial logic.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 05:52 PM
Sep 2019

That sort of logic is why we are so fucked up (as many posters in this thread seem to understand).

former9thward

(31,936 posts)
33. You are twisting what France and Japan have said.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 06:52 PM
Sep 2019

They have said they have seen no evidence that Iran did the attack. That is completely different than saying Iran did not do it which you posted. I am suspicious of the statements of any country dependent on Iranian oil or the oil from Iran's main alley, Russia.

Autumn

(44,980 posts)
22. Disputing Trump claims, Japan says no evidence Iran was behind Saudi attack
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 05:03 PM
Sep 2019
“We are not aware of any information that points to Iran,” said Japanese defense minister Taro Kono.

Japanese Defense Minister Taro Kono told reporters Wednesday that he has not seen any intelligence indicating Iran was behind the attacks on Saudi Arabian oil facilities over the weekend, contradicting Saudi and Trump administration claims about the incident.

“We are not aware of any information that points to Iran,” Kono said during a press briefing. “We believe the Houthis carried out the attack based on the statement claiming responsibility.”

The only evidence the Trump administration has released to substantiate its claim of Iranian responsibility are satellite photos that experts said are not clear enough to assign blame. Ret. Gen. Mark Hertling, a CNN intelligence analyst, said the images “really don’t show anything, other than pretty good accuracy on the strike of the oil tanks.”


https://www.rawstory.com/2019/09/disputing-trump-claims-japan-says-no-evidence-iran-was-behind-saudi-attack/

EX500rider

(10,809 posts)
25. I doubt Japan has many intelligence assets in the Persian Gulf so not surprising.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 05:20 PM
Sep 2019

I doubt the the island nation of Tonga has any proof either.

former9thward

(31,936 posts)
34. You can trust a country dependent on Iranian oil.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 06:53 PM
Sep 2019

And a country dependent on Russian oil, Iran's main ally. I don't.

onethatcares

(16,161 posts)
24. dammint,
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 05:16 PM
Sep 2019

we supposedly have ultra secret military ability to read license plates from a gazillion miles in the sky. Wouldn't we have some type of Ring doorbell that would video tape 3 cruize missles and some drones in real time?

I call bullshit on this one. donnie needs a war,

FBaggins

(26,721 posts)
26. Time to attack Iceland!
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 05:29 PM
Sep 2019

They might SAY that they had nothing to do with the attack... but they refuse to tell us who did!

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
28. Well, IF they SAID they didn't do it, then we should take them at their word
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 05:48 PM
Sep 2019

and believe them.

After all, we are supposed to believe that Putin didn't interfere with our elections, because he SAID he didn't do so. Kim Jong Un SAID that he didn't torture Otto Warmbier to death, so he didn't. MBS SAID that he didn't order the execution of Jamal Khashoggi, so he didn't do that either.

By the example set by our peerless leader, he accepts - at face value - that none of these men did anything that they are accused of because they SAID they didn't do those things, and we should believe them, because (gasp) those men would NEVER lie to us.

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