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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMy best guess as to what happened:
1. Trump called Zelensky, threatened to cut off aid for Ukraine if he didnt get dirt on Biden.
2. Zelensky told Trump to go Cheney himself.
3. Feeling slighted, Trump calls Putin and tells him there will be no repercussions if Russia escalates its military activity in Eastern Ukraine.
Only a guess but I think that is what may have gone down.
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)I reserve the right to change my mind.
dalton99a
(81,073 posts)dweller
(23,562 posts)Tommy_Carcetti posts... and if i do, i'm blitzed and tired
ymmv,
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uponit7771
(90,225 posts)... cheating to win in 2020.
Control-Z
(15,681 posts)of involving 2 world leaders instead of just one.
I've never been a CT type but with today's politics and the WH squatter's administration of the criminally insane there is little that would surprise me.
Hamlette
(15,394 posts)Maybe the promise of more aid if he wins in 2020?
Harker
(13,880 posts)outcome, while promoting military action falls into the "threat" category.
It's hard, though, to tell one from the other with Trumpsky.
Hamlette
(15,394 posts)$250M. Which was finally given to Ukraine when Congress sent letter to DNI requesting copy of whistle blowers complaint.
Shady.
certainot
(9,090 posts)biden bullshit. everything he does is predicated on shit coming from limbos ass, looking more and more likely originating in kremlin think tanks
that's the collusion putin>rw radio>trump
hadEnuf
(2,150 posts)Same strategy.
relayerbob
(6,510 posts)I doubt Putin ever had any concerns about US repercussions in the first place
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,085 posts)So it hasnt been that he hasnt felt them.
MBS
(9,688 posts)And it also fits with the mention of "multiple" incidents.
It also would be completely in character for MF45 The Insecure.
DallasNE
(7,392 posts)BY Rudy in Madrid when he met Ukrainian officials there. The quid pro quo would have taken place prior to the Trump phone call.
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)Major Nikon
(36,814 posts)1) Trump sent Giuliani to Madrid to tell Ukraine to investigate Biden's son
2) Giuliani told the aid in Madrid not just to investigate Biden's son, but also to investigate a trumped up allegation that the Democrat's colluded with Ukraine over the Manafort investigation (as if Manafort wasn't guilty to begin with).
3) Trump withholds aid that's vital to Ukraine and tells them they could improve their position if they completed their "investigation".
We already know all of those things. So what Trump has done, indirectly is tell Ukraine they had better manufacture some dirt on his political enemies, or they won't get their aid. The aid was only released AFTER Trump knew the story was going to break wide open.