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Stinky The Clown

(67,766 posts)
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 10:09 PM Sep 2019

It really feels like we're getting closer by the day to a totalitarian dictatorship.

We have to believe the constitution is sufficiently robust to weather this shit storm but I don't know anymore.

Today, in Manhattan, NY, Trump's lawyers won an injunction based on the theory that he simply is - in fact and indeed - ABOVE THE LAW.

Wow.

Meanwhile, in Washington, Congressional subpoenas have been treading a steady path to a legal graveyard, where they rot and die.

Two men are largely responsible for this - Bill Barr and Mitch McConnell.

What will happen if/when the 2020 elections get canceled?

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It really feels like we're getting closer by the day to a totalitarian dictatorship. (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Sep 2019 OP
ROY Cohn pangaia Sep 2019 #1
K&R... spanone Sep 2019 #2
There can be no denial that our democracy is in grave danger. dalton99a Sep 2019 #3
They still want the big prize - Social Security shanti Sep 2019 #4
YEP Cosmocat Sep 2019 #13
I wonder if this is kind of what an occupation feels like. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2019 #5
The election may not get cancelled, but they may only count the Russian votes. nt woodsprite Sep 2019 #6
Not Dark Yet but it's getting there njhoneybadger Sep 2019 #7
We could also be getting closer by the day to a revolution smirkymonkey Sep 2019 #8
The ball is in the GOP's court. They can cancel the elections if they want to ecstatic Sep 2019 #9
The Constitution is a compact between the states. roamer65 Sep 2019 #10
More like the entire West Coast shanti Sep 2019 #14
America is stronger than Donald Fucking Trump Skittles Sep 2019 #11
I don't think the 2020 elections will be canceled. Way COLGATE4 Sep 2019 #12

Cosmocat

(14,559 posts)
13. YEP
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 06:05 AM
Sep 2019

and 1/3 of the country will DEMAND that we roll over and take it, with 1/3 shugging and babbling, "they are both the same ..."

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,615 posts)
5. I wonder if this is kind of what an occupation feels like.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 10:30 PM
Sep 2019

I've been reading some WWII history for a class about the Nazi occupation of Norway, and what it did to people psychologically. Obviously that was a much worse situation - although the military casualties were relatively low for that war, people were arrested, shot or exiled; and for most of the population there were serious shortages of food and other goods. But the psychological impact was devastating, too, because people didn't know whom they could believe or trust; who might be a collaborator that could turn them over to the Germans; families were torn apart; the newspapers and radio broadcasts were controlled and unreliable; and people were scared, depressed, and felt helpless. It took a couple of decades for the country to recover (and the experience might have contributed to their current intense respect for democracy).

Although we're nowhere near there yet, there seems to be a frightening and depressing sense of helplessness hanging over the latest developments because nobody seems to be able to stop Trump's government from doing whatever it wants. I hope something breaks open soon.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
8. We could also be getting closer by the day to a revolution
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 11:12 PM
Sep 2019

by the masses. People can only put up with so much.

We have been beaten down by their corruption and abuse, but eventually the impotent rage of the oppressed majority will decide that enough is enough and put a stop to it. We haven't reached a breaking point yet, but I think we are very close.

ecstatic

(32,653 posts)
9. The ball is in the GOP's court. They can cancel the elections if they want to
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 11:14 PM
Sep 2019

or they can preside over a farce election. It's completely up to them because the people with a little bit of power to do something don't seem to recognize the threat we're facing.

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
10. The Constitution is a compact between the states.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 11:42 PM
Sep 2019

No elections, no compact. Secession will be brought to the table.

California, New York and New England will be the first to leave.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
12. I don't think the 2020 elections will be canceled. Way
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 05:38 AM
Sep 2019

too heavy-handed. What i fear is that, with lots and lots of Russian (and probably other countries as well) help the election results will be unclear. Enter the Supremes, ready to produce an electoral victory for Lord Pissypants a la Bush v Gore ( opinion authored by Billy Boofer).

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