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sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 10:10 PM Sep 2019

Let's remember what Trump/Giuliani/Ukraine collusion is all about - sinking Joe Biden

Inside Rudy Giuliani’s Attempt To Get Dirt On Joe Biden

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/rudy-giuliani-ukraine-dirt-biden-telizhenko


Rudy Giuliani has resumed pushing Ukraine to investigate President Trump’s domestic political rivals, with a new round of talks he’s admitted were coordinated through the State Department.


Rudy Giuliani confirmed to The New York Times and CNN Wednesday that he’d spoken multiple times in recent weeks, including in an in-person Madrid meeting, to an aide to the Ukrainian president about investigations that would help Trump and hurt Democrats in 2020.

Giuliani insisted to CNN that everything was aboveboard and that he “wouldn’t do an unethical thing in my life.” The aide, Andriy Yermak, told the Times that Giuliani was “very interested” in the new administration of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky “openly investigating all these cases.”

But the pair’s conversations, Giuliani told CNN, focused on a smeary allegation from the Trump camp against Joe Biden that Giuliani has said in the past “will be very, very helpful to my client.”

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/rudys-back-at-it-giuliani-again-presses-ukraine-to-investigate-biden


This Shocking Abuse of Office Continues
Rudy's the Bagman for the 2020 Collusion

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/this-shocking-abuse-of-office-continues

If you’re still worried about the collusion described in the Mueller Report forgot about that because it probably means you’re not focused enough on how President Trump’s top advisors are already, more or less openly, trying to muscle Ukraine into targeting Trump’s political enemies in the US to throw the 2020 election in Trump’s favor.

I really cannot overstate how important this is.

As you know, Ukraine remains highly dependent on the United States, diplomatically, economically and even militarily, at least in the sense of arms sales. Russia continues a de facto occupation/insurgency in the country’s east. Crimea has already been annexed by the Russian Federation. The government of Ukraine is in little position to say no to anything the US government asks for.

There’s already substantial evidence that Trump used his leverage to get the Ukraine government to end its cooperation with the Mueller probe in 2018. There’s really little question this happened.










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Let's remember what Trump/Giuliani/Ukraine collusion is all about - sinking Joe Biden (Original Post) sharedvalues Sep 2019 OP
This is craziness Johnny2X2X Sep 2019 #1
Collusion 1, now collusion 2 sharedvalues Sep 2019 #5
Smoking Howitzer indeed spanone Sep 2019 #2
This is some sick shit lunasun Sep 2019 #3
More like a smoking anti-aircraft grenade launcher. Dawson Leery Sep 2019 #4
So, criminal tampering with 2 (at least) elections? Cracklin Charlie Sep 2019 #6
And Barr is trying to cover up BOTH sharedvalues Sep 2019 #7
Rudy also has a personal grudge against Biden ... GeorgeGist Sep 2019 #8
Giuliani "wouldn't do an unethical thing in my life"? tanyev Sep 2019 #9

Johnny2X2X

(19,024 posts)
1. This is craziness
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 10:13 PM
Sep 2019

Giuliani is repeating Breitbart stories that Biden threatened the Ukrainian President into firing a prosecutor who was looking into a company Hunter Biden had something to do with.

That’s where Trump’s camp is taking this. They will try to make this about Hunter Biden.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
5. Collusion 1, now collusion 2
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 10:23 PM
Sep 2019



And the F'ing deeply corrupt Attorney General Bill Barr is trying to COVER IT UP.




edit... Collusion 2, I mean. We already knew he is covering up collusion 1.

tanyev

(42,541 posts)
9. Giuliani "wouldn't do an unethical thing in my life"?
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 10:53 PM
Sep 2019

LOL. I get that you’re going to deny you did anything wrong, Rudy, but don’t try to give me a tour of Bullshit Mountain.

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