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kpete

(71,965 posts)
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 11:47 AM Sep 2019

UKRAINE RESPONDS! With EPIC Troll of Trump?

www.thedailybeast.com/...

Ukrainian Official: We’re Ready to Investigate Biden’s Son—if Trump Asks Officially

Ukraine officials see no indication Biden or his son broke their laws. If Trump wants them investigated in Kyiv, his government will need to say why and what for.


KYIV—Ukraine is ready to investigate the connections Joe Biden’s son Hunter Biden had with the Ukrainian natural-gas company Burisma Holdings, according to Anton Geraschenko, a senior adviser to the country’s interior minister who would oversee such an inquiry.

Geraschenko told The Daily Beast in an exclusive interview that “as soon as there is an official request from the Trump administration, we’ll look into it,” but “currently there is no open investigation.”

“Clearly,” said Geraschenko, “Trump is now looking for kompromat to discredit his opponent Biden, to take revenge for his friend Paul Manafort, who is serving seven years in prison.” Among the counts on which Manafort was convicted: tax evasion. “We do not investigate Biden in Ukraine, since we have not received a single official request to do so,” said Geraschenko.

His remarks last week came amid widespread speculation that U.S. President Donald Trump had made vital U.S. military aid for Ukraine contingent on such an inquiry, but had tried to do so informally through unofficial representatives, including his lawyer Rudy Giuliani and Giuliani’s adviser on Ukraine, Sam Kislin.


https://www.thedailybeast.com/ukraine-is-ready-to-investigate-bidens-sonbut-only-if-theres-an-official-us-request
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/9/20/1886715/-Is-Ukraine-Now-Trolling-Trump?utm_campaign=trending

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UKRAINE RESPONDS! With EPIC Troll of Trump? (Original Post) kpete Sep 2019 OP
Nicely Ukrainian officials empedocles Sep 2019 #1
Ooooooooooh, I love it! TruckFump Sep 2019 #2
K&R here are current details, according to CNN Jeffersons Ghost Sep 2019 #18
K&R... spanone Sep 2019 #3
It's the Hoover dodge gratuitous Sep 2019 #4
I wonder what Hoover and traitor Trump would make of each other? Farmer-Rick Sep 2019 #10
hard to say. I read a few bios on him... Javaman Sep 2019 #19
Am I mis-reading the last line of the quote? blaze Sep 2019 #5
' a single OFFICIAL request to do so' crazytown Sep 2019 #7
Probably was a "personal favor" from the Ghoul Roland99 Sep 2019 #9
Reported some months ago: Request needs to come from Barr. nt floppyboo Sep 2019 #22
yep. you have a right to be. stopdiggin Sep 2019 #8
Looks as though red don asked not fooled Sep 2019 #11
Not an "official" request , though there may well have been unoffici--and improper-- tblue37 Sep 2019 #16
Ukraine ought to turn over audio of the phone calls to the American press. Vinca Sep 2019 #6
Oh, yeah, I would love to hear those phone conversations. Farmer-Rick Sep 2019 #12
You'd think Ukraine would be rooting for trump to lose the election EveHammond13 Sep 2019 #13
Maybe if Trump hadn't been caught licking Putin's butt vlyons Sep 2019 #15
Once again, Trump performs a butt show! vlyons Sep 2019 #14
Biden's son is in business in the Ukraine has he broken and Ukraine laws. And does Trump want us.. usaf-vet Sep 2019 #17
Tweets don't count, either Hekate Sep 2019 #20
Linked DailyKOS image. ROTFLMAO ffr Sep 2019 #21
Hahahahaha!!!! I love this guy!!!!!! Takket Sep 2019 #23
Make fake news up czarjak Sep 2019 #24

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
4. It's the Hoover dodge
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 12:31 PM
Sep 2019

J. Edgar Hoover ran his own little fiefdom in the FBI for decades. It was openly rumored and certainly no secret that Hoover maintained copious "confidential" files. Hoover denied any such perfidious practice, of course. But time and again, inconvenient critics of the Bureau suddenly changed their tune, and it was pretty obvious that Hoover had dirt on any number of people. Presidents from Truman to Nixon, upon taking office, had to make a pilgrimage to Hoover's office at the FBI and pay their respects. Those same presidents made discreet inquiries about seeing the contents of some of those files that didn't exist, particularly files on their political adversaries.

Hoover's response was always to deny that he had any files at all on private citizens, but that if the new President wanted to issue an executive order for the FBI to start keeping such files, why, he'd be more than happy to accommodate them. Just sign an order. Unsurprisingly, nobody took him up on the offer, because no President wanted the public responsibility of ordering the creation of a secret police force.

Sounds like the Ukrainians have learned Hoover's lesson quite well, and sticking it to Trump like this is pretty humiliating.

Farmer-Rick

(10,140 posts)
10. I wonder what Hoover and traitor Trump would make of each other?
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 01:10 PM
Sep 2019

Hoover seemed to avoid investigating the mob, which got seriously out of control, so I think he might just of gotten along with the orange stain.

Javaman

(62,504 posts)
19. hard to say. I read a few bios on him...
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 02:24 PM
Sep 2019

hoover, I think, would only work for benedict trump if it was quid pro quo.

I think in hoovers twisted mind, he thought himself a good American, and as such, I think he would salivate over the oranges assholes proclivities as a way to control him.

blaze

(6,347 posts)
5. Am I mis-reading the last line of the quote?
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 12:34 PM
Sep 2019

“We do not investigate Biden in Ukraine, since we have not received a single official request to do so,” said Geraschenko.

Isn't he saying that drumph did NOT ask for dirt? So... isn't he covering for drumph?

I'm confused.

stopdiggin

(11,254 posts)
8. yep. you have a right to be.
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 12:56 PM
Sep 2019

this is some political (and diplomatic) two step. and frankly I'd be a little skeptical if this represents "official" Ukranian policy or position. there's no pay-off for them stepping in to our domestic hog wallow.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
11. Looks as though red don asked
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 01:14 PM
Sep 2019

via the phone call or calls that the mystery whistleblower reported. Apparently that wasn't an "official" request. No official status to the call because no formal record, or not set up through normal channels? I'm guessing here.

tblue37

(65,227 posts)
16. Not an "official" request , though there may well have been unoffici--and improper--
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 02:06 PM
Sep 2019

requests.

Vinca

(50,237 posts)
6. Ukraine ought to turn over audio of the phone calls to the American press.
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 12:38 PM
Sep 2019

MF45 has been a thorn in their sides and here's their chance to help get rid of him.

Farmer-Rick

(10,140 posts)
12. Oh, yeah, I would love to hear those phone conversations.
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 01:17 PM
Sep 2019

If the Ukraine doesn't want the orange stain supporting his little master in Russia, maybe a terrible leak by disreputable criminals could be arranged. They could break in and steal the "tapes", then sell them for high dollar to any American news outlet.

Then, maybe in the next election Traitor Trump would be toast.

I would love to hear how Traitor Trump pressures people to do illegal things in his own squeaky baby voice.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
15. Maybe if Trump hadn't been caught licking Putin's butt
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 02:00 PM
Sep 2019

The Ukranians wouldn't take such delight in humiliating him.

usaf-vet

(6,165 posts)
17. Biden's son is in business in the Ukraine has he broken and Ukraine laws. And does Trump want us..
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 02:08 PM
Sep 2019

.. look at Jarvanka's oversea business dealing. Eric overseas business dealings? And Trump Jrs.overseas business dealings.

AND DOES HE REALLY WANT TO ENCOURAGE ANOTHER FOREIGN COUNTRY TO INTERFERE IN ANOTHER ELECTION.

I bet our foreign allies that hate Trump and have advanced intelligence services have LOTS of shit on the Trump grifters that they willing would share with the Dems Tit for tat.

Trump needs to remember he is only a political genius in his own deluded head nowhere else.

Takket

(21,529 posts)
23. Hahahahaha!!!! I love this guy!!!!!!
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 02:55 PM
Sep 2019

Please move to the USA Mr. Geraschenko so I can vote for you!!!!

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