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skip fox

(19,357 posts)
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 12:31 PM Sep 2019

The speculation that Trump was pressuring Ukriane to investigate Biden seems right because

Trump released the funds directed to Ukraine last week AFTER HE WAS INFORMED ABOUT THE WHISTLE-BLOWER.

Remember, on Aug 12th the whistle-blower filed his or her complaint with intelligence community to Inspector General Michael Atkinson who gave it to Acting Director of National Intelligence Joseph Maguire before Aug. 26. In all likelihood Trump knew about the complaint withing 24 hours.

On September 9th Atkinson informed Congress of existence of whistle-blower complaint which he had determined met the legal threshold of “urgent concern” without revealing its contents.

Then three days later on Sept. 12th, when Trump, who already knew about the complaint, realized he was not going to be able to sweep this episode under the rug because of Atkinson's notification, he quickly released the Ukrainian funds to mitigate the damage of this story if it came all the way out.

Right?

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The speculation that Trump was pressuring Ukriane to investigate Biden seems right because (Original Post) skip fox Sep 2019 OP
Precisely malaise Sep 2019 #1
Because Joe Biden presents a CREDIBLE THREAT to Trump's CORRUPT regime...... ProudMNDemocrat Sep 2019 #2
Ukraine has confirmed this Gothmog Sep 2019 #3
Nailed it! Mike 03 Sep 2019 #4
Ah!!! - The Art Of The Deal.....nt global1 Sep 2019 #5
This is likely 100% spot on ScratchCat Sep 2019 #6
Yep. K&R pandr32 Sep 2019 #7
I suspect we're all being played by an evil cabal. GeorgeGist Sep 2019 #8
Back in July, The New Yorker did a DeminPennswoods Sep 2019 #9

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,784 posts)
2. Because Joe Biden presents a CREDIBLE THREAT to Trump's CORRUPT regime......
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 12:34 PM
Sep 2019

and his plans to pass on the Presidency to one or all of his kids in succession.

The US Constitution be damned.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
9. Back in July, The New Yorker did a
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 01:58 PM
Sep 2019

feature story on Hunter Biden. It talks about his involvement with Ukraine. Hunter Biden does not seem to be a particularly astute businessman either.

Link: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/07/08/will-hunter-biden-jeopardize-his-fathers-campaign

This is kind of the gist of the Ukraine stuff, but definitely read the whole article.

In early 2014, Zlochevsky sought to assemble a high-profile international board to oversee Burisma, telling prospective members that he wanted the company to adopt Western standards of transparency. Among the board members he recruited was a former President of Poland, Aleksander Kwaśniewski, who had a reputation as a dedicated reformer. In early 2014, at Zlochevsky’s suggestion, Kwaśniewski met with Archer in Warsaw and encouraged him to join Burisma’s board, arguing that the company was critical to Ukraine’s independence from Russia. Archer agreed.

When Archer told Hunter that the board needed advice on how to improve the company’s corporate governance, Hunter recommended the law firm Boies Schiller Flexner, where he was “of counsel.” The firm brought in the investigative agency Nardello & Co. to assess Burisma’s history of corruption. Hunter joined Archer on the Burisma board in April, 2014. Three months later, in a draft report to Boies Schiller, Nardello said that it was “unable to identify any information to date regarding any current government investigation into Zlochevsky or Burisma,” but cited unnamed sources saying that Zlochevsky could be “vulnerable to investigation for financial crimes” and for “perceived abuse of power.”

Vice-President Biden was playing a central role in overseeing U.S. policy in Ukraine, and took the lead in calling on Kiev to fight rampant corruption. On May 13, 2014, after Hunter’s role on the Burisma board was reported in the news, Jen Psaki, a State Department spokesperson, said that the State Department was not concerned about perceived conflicts of interest, because Hunter was a “private citizen.” Hunter told Burisma’s management and other board members that he would not be involved in any matters that were connected to the U.S. government or to his father. Kwaśniewski told me, “We never discussed how the Vice-President can help us. Frankly speaking, we didn’t need such help.”
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