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Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 03:50 PM Sep 2019

**Carol Leonnig tweet: Trump asked Ukraine pres *8 times* to work w/ Guiliani about Biden**




Carol Leonnig

@CarolLeonnig

President asked Ukraine president -- eight times -- to work with his personal lawyer to investigate Biden's son


Vivian Salama

@vmsalama

Pres­i­dent Trump in a July phone call re­peat­edly pres­sured the pres­i­dent of Ukraine to in­ves­ti­gate De­mo­c­ra­tic pres­i­den­tial can­di­date Joe Biden’s son, urg­ing Volodymyr Ze­len­sky about 8x to work with Rudy Giu­liani, his per­sonal lawyer https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-defends-conversation-with-ukraine-leader-11568993176

3:43 PM - Sep 20, 2019


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**Carol Leonnig tweet: Trump asked Ukraine pres *8 times* to work w/ Guiliani about Biden** (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Sep 2019 OP
BOOMS all over the place!!! Leghorn21 Sep 2019 #1
I *live* for Ben's *booms*! Dennis Donovan Sep 2019 #4
Oh, don't we all, Dennis, Leghorn21 Sep 2019 #8
That's like Rainman number of times. Nevilledog Sep 2019 #2
Oh damn, dog Leghorn21 Sep 2019 #12
She's very sparkly. Funtatlaguy Sep 2019 #21
Hahahaaaaa! berksdem Sep 2019 #23
Reminds me of Mrs Doyle from Father Ted OnDoutside Sep 2019 #34
Gonna get rewards for reporting. elleng Sep 2019 #3
They should fill a swimming pool with Pulitzers and have a free swim! Dennis Donovan Sep 2019 #7
RESIGN. nt coti Sep 2019 #5
K&R, The KGOP is trying to dump Red Don before the election knowing he's going to be impeached .... uponit7771 Sep 2019 #6
what was the promise Trump made though? lanlady Sep 2019 #9
Maybe promised not to block the military aid. nt tblue37 Sep 2019 #17
Is THIS enough, Nancy? NightWatcher Sep 2019 #10
It's gonna be impeachment o'clock one of these days klook Sep 2019 #25
In the words of Luther Vandross Saint PeLSU Sep 2019 #37
Kick dalton99a Sep 2019 #11
Recommended. H2O Man Sep 2019 #13
She is quite outstanding! Dennis Donovan Sep 2019 #16
Definitely! H2O Man Sep 2019 #18
And she is very brave. Regarding death of Jeffrey Epstein... Kid Berwyn Sep 2019 #38
Thanks for that! H2O Man Sep 2019 #39
Dead cameras, like dead men, tell no tales. Kid Berwyn Sep 2019 #41
A while back, H2O Man Sep 2019 #43
Thank you for the kind reminders! Kid Berwyn Sep 2019 #44
Why the need to work with Rudy? Cracklin Charlie Sep 2019 #14
Needs ANOTHER mouthpiece??? elleng Sep 2019 #19
Here's a Giuliani post for reference joost5 Sep 2019 #24
K&R for visibility. nt tblue37 Sep 2019 #15
That's a damn shame that it took a Iliyah Sep 2019 #20
That's it right? joost5 Sep 2019 #22
Sadly, I will believe it when I see it.... berksdem Sep 2019 #26
Same here get the red out Sep 2019 #30
Mr. Zelensky is a tough cookie. No wonder Dotard is threatening him. Sneederbunk Sep 2019 #27
For anyone who thinks trump will NOT cheat in the upcoming election..... spanone Sep 2019 #28
Only MSM tries to pretend that. triron Sep 2019 #32
Thanks, Dennis! orangecrush Sep 2019 #29
This is horrible. yardwork Sep 2019 #31
There is nothing blue-wave Sep 2019 #33
Washington Post is confirming the WSJ account NewJeffCT Sep 2019 #35
Attempted collusion/mob behavior. moondust Sep 2019 #36
Was that wrong? jayschool2013 Sep 2019 #40
As bad as this is...there's a lot worse. My hope is that misconduct like this is the last wiggs Sep 2019 #42
Seth says it better than I wiggs Sep 2019 #46
... Scurrilous Sep 2019 #45

berksdem

(595 posts)
23. Hahahaaaaa!
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 04:25 PM
Sep 2019

Thanks for the laugh.

The negative part of me thinks all of this will get swept under the rug like everything else... but this made me chuckle!!!

elleng

(130,865 posts)
3. Gonna get rewards for reporting.
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 03:55 PM
Sep 2019

Vivian Salama White House reporter for @WSJ. Formerly AP Baghdad bureau chief. Previous posts include Iraq, UAE, Egypt, Pakistan, IsPal, NYC & RI.

Carol Leonnig

Washington Post reporter, MSNBC contributor, finder of fact. If you have a story tip, email me at carol.leonnig@washpost.com

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
7. They should fill a swimming pool with Pulitzers and have a free swim!
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 03:58 PM
Sep 2019

INCREDIBLE reporting on so many fronts!!

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
6. K&R, The KGOP is trying to dump Red Don before the election knowing he's going to be impeached ....
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 03:57 PM
Sep 2019

... they could give a shit about his treason.

lanlady

(7,134 posts)
9. what was the promise Trump made though?
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 04:00 PM
Sep 2019

Initial reports said that Trump promised the foreign leader something. What was the tit for tat here?

 

Saint PeLSU

(24 posts)
37. In the words of Luther Vandross
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 06:00 PM
Sep 2019

Never too much, never too much.

I've had zero confidence in NP since she said she wasn't worried about impeachment right after the dems took the house. The problem with money in politics is that they all have the same donors. I often wonder if it's them telling her not to

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
13. Recommended.
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 04:09 PM
Sep 2019

She is outstanding! I have the greatest respect for her. And you have provided a prime example of why. Thank you!

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
18. Definitely!
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 04:16 PM
Sep 2019

I just e-mailed my older son at his work about this. He thinks it is cool, because (among other things) last night I told him that she would break the story sometime this weekend. She has solid connections in this area -- obviously!

Kid Berwyn

(14,885 posts)
38. And she is very brave. Regarding death of Jeffrey Epstein...
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 06:05 PM
Sep 2019

EPSTEIN DEATH: DEEP DIGGING NOT WELCOME IN CORPORATE MEDIA

by Russ Baker
WhoWhatWhy.org , Aug. 26, 2019

Excerpt...

Although establishment media usually ignore or ridicule non-traditional media when the latter ask questions that don’t conform to a pro-system bias, they have a tougher time when it is one of their own breaking ranks.

That’s what the Washington Post did. It began with a tweet from reporter Carol Leonnig:

People close to Epstein fear he was murdered…as Epstein told authorities someone tried to kill him in a previous incident weeks earlier. He was described as being in good spirits in recent days… https://t.co/J9QNSo1N2v

— Carol Leonnig (@CarolLeonnig) August 10, 2019

In a follow-up tweet the same day, Leonnig reminded readers:

Remember previous incident July 23: it was never cleared up whether Epstein had been attacked, as he said, or if he was covering up his own suicide attempt https://t.co/G7smVLAZqc

— Carol Leonnig (@CarolLeonnig) August 10, 2019

In a rare display, we saw other major news organizations take the Post to task. For instance, Rolling Stone. This progressive journal quoted Tim Gleason — a professor of journalism and director of the Payne Awards for Ethics in Journalism at the University of Oregon — who said “I don’t know why she would have tweeted this — what was she thinking? It’s hard not to read that and think she is suggesting something else happened.”

Something else. As if “something else” was clearly out of the question.

Continues...

https://whowhatwhy.org/2019/08/26/epstein-death-deep-digging-not-welcome-in-corporate-media/

So, did we ever learn what was on the video cameras?

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
39. Thanks for that!
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 06:13 PM
Sep 2019

If I remember correctly, those pesky cameras were experiencing technical difficulties at the time. Mere coincidence, right?

Kid Berwyn

(14,885 posts)
41. Dead cameras, like dead men, tell no tales.
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 06:19 PM
Sep 2019

The story Epstein’s cameras could tell might remind the public of AG Barr’s family connection to Epstein.

Vital history that is little known:

The Ties That Bind Jeffrey Epstein, William Barr & Donald Trump

Todd Neikirk
Hill Reporter, May 19, 2019

During Attorney General, William Barr’s confirmation hearing, he was mostly peppered with questions about how he would handle the Mueller Report. Senator Ben Sasse’s (R-NE) questioning, however, diverged from the pack. Sasse asked Barr about the lenient sentence given out to billionaire pedophile, Jeffrey Epstein. The future Attorney General told Sasse that he would look into the matter.

This, however, was not the first connection between Barr and his family and the disgraced pedophile. In 1973, Barr’s father Donald, the headmaster at Manhattan’s Dalton School, hired Epstein as a calculus and physics teacher.

While hiring Epstein, a noted mathematics genius, was not strange on its face, the hire was unusual for a number of reasons. Epstein had not earned a college degree as he dropped out of New York’s prestigious Cooper Union. The other odd circumstance was that the new teacher was only 20 years of age.

Apparently, the hire was a successful one. The New Yorker wrote in a 2003 profile on Epstein, “he was something of a Robin Williams–in–Dead Poets Society type of figure, wowing his high-school classes with passionate mathematical riffs.” Epstein’s mathematical skills caught the eye of Bear Stearns’ chairman, Alan “Ace” Greenberg, whose son attended the Dalton School. Greenberg hired Epstein as an options trader and the former teacher was able to amass a fortune.

Continues....

https://hillreporter.com/the-ties-that-bind-jeffrey-epstein-william-barr-donald-trump-34107

——————-

Barr Sr — OSS veteran — must’ve seen a potential, uh, asset. Otherwise, there’s no logical rationale for the hire.

ETA: I have yet to hear a major media outlet — print or broadcast — bring Barr Sr hiring Epstein to the nation’s attention.

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
43. A while back,
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 07:03 PM
Sep 2019

I posted an essay here that documented in detail Epstein's connections with intelligence. It started, exactly as you note, with Barr Sr. And it went on for decades.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
20. That's a damn shame that it took a
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 04:17 PM
Sep 2019

whistle blower to show to the corporate media what has been in their face for some time.

RG and shithole has been doing this for sometime.

get the red out

(13,462 posts)
30. Same here
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 04:41 PM
Sep 2019

I worry about getting my hopes up that the orange piece of shit will have any consequences, for any crimes he commits, at any time.

blue-wave

(4,352 posts)
33. There is nothing
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 05:02 PM
Sep 2019

it seems, that tRump won't sell for profit. My resolve to help elect Joe just became stronger.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
35. Washington Post is confirming the WSJ account
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 05:26 PM
Sep 2019

the Journal is a Republican newspaper owned by Rupert Murdoch

moondust

(19,972 posts)
36. Attempted collusion/mob behavior.
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 05:28 PM
Sep 2019

When you're a corrupt, racist, unqualified sleazebag pretending to be God Almighty and trying to avoid being humiliated in an election--you'll collude, cheat, rig, threaten, intimidate, or anything else to try to save yourself.

Make it an addendum adding more evidence to the Mueller report.

wiggs

(7,812 posts)
42. As bad as this is...there's a lot worse. My hope is that misconduct like this is the last
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 06:38 PM
Sep 2019

straw for many, and that his protection, support, believers, enablers, complicit criminals start giving up so that ALL the rest of it becomes public. In time for impeachment and criminal referral.

Sure...this should be immediate impeachment for his Ukraine pressure. Does that mean the inquiries about emoluments, collusion, conspriacy, treachery, money laundering, kompromat, refusal to defend the US against attack...should end and NOT be part of impeachment?

There's a LONG list of reasons why he should be removed and prosecuted...I hope TPTB have the courage and perseverance to continue.

wiggs

(7,812 posts)
46. Seth says it better than I
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 09:32 AM
Sep 2019



whole thread, including responses are worthwhile

A clarification I want to make for those saying that of course Trump is closer now to impeachment than ever before because what he did with Ukraine is the worst thing he's done

What Trump did with Ukraine was very bad but is absolutely nowhere close to the worst thing he's done
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