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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPrediction: he loses the election, declares it null and void
Due to rampant radical socialist leftist voter fraud
Boom! President for life.
Dont think it cant/wont happen? Think again.
Name ONE standard or law he has been held to. Ill wait.
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)JenniferJuniper
(4,512 posts)probably sooner rather than later.
But I agree, he's gotten away with everything else.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I'm not religious, but I pray for it every day.
Celerity
(43,357 posts)liberaltrucker
(9,129 posts)trueblue2007
(17,218 posts)lapfog_1
(29,204 posts)for the swing vote to physically remove the oranus from the White House... but there we go.
superpatriotman
(6,249 posts)Is we can now see clearly all the things in the Constitution that need to be fixed.
lark
(23,099 posts)Roberts will side with Russian Repugs for anything to do with drumpf because he's a total rw sell out liar, who only occasionally, when it doesn't involve the presidency, will actually side with the law while most of the time being a destroyer. If we are relying on him, well, then it's welcome to the fascist Nazis and good bye America.
Polybius
(15,411 posts)But does he have the power to do it?
Bettie
(16,107 posts)Does anyone have the power or the will to stop him?
Polybius
(15,411 posts)Staying in power would be the worst by far.
Bettie
(16,107 posts)but very little has been fully kept from happening.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)uponit7771
(90,336 posts)Iwasthere
(3,168 posts)bearsfootball516
(6,377 posts)He can declare it null and void all he wants, but theres no teeth behind it.
elleng
(130,903 posts)superpatriotman
(6,249 posts)Theres no reason to expect that has changed. And btw, the judiciary has gone full right wing.
bearsfootball516
(6,377 posts)The power for him to do that literally doesnt exit, it belongs to the states.
superpatriotman
(6,249 posts)He is a lawbreaker. He wants to be a dictator. His base and the entire repuke party are with the program.
stopdiggin
(11,306 posts)but you really expect that Congress and the Supreme Court are going to void an electoral college win because Trump says so? Not buying it.
LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)But who'd have thought that the fat fascistic, racist, sexually abusing, narcissistic, ignorant, treasonous, America-hating clown would be installed into the Oval office like he was? Hillary Clinton was robbed. END OF STORY.
Now, there were several people--Including several pundits, a few friends and myself who were alarmed when MoscowMitch pretty much threatened Pres. Obama about telling the American people about ruskie interference and if he did that, Moscow would run with the meme that he (Obama) was putting his thumb on the scales for Hillary, and Pres. Obama backed down because he didn't want to be seen as interfering into the 2016 GE, and if you believe what many also thought: That Hillary would win. Anyway, I remember Malcolm Nance being SO alarmed about the steady/rapid rise in authoritarianism/right-winged extremism/racism running rampant enough in Europe, and putin's meddling everywhere, that he wrote a book about it before it happened:
Yeah, Moscow did bow enough to throw that election security pittance of $250 Million into protection of our 2020 elections, but WILL that lying, treasonous, racist, now allowing Pres. Obama to place 2 Supers onto the SC piece of shit actually ALLOW that small pittance to be used to actually protect the US 2020 GE?
elleng
(130,903 posts)Presidential election is conducted in each of the states (+ DC, Puerto Rico, etc.) and the numbers in the electoral college will determine the winner.
superpatriotman
(6,249 posts)Nt
elleng
(130,903 posts)stopdiggin
(11,306 posts)GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Other than that you are correct.
elleng
(130,903 posts)The Twenty-third Amendment to the United States Constitution, adopted in 1961, entitles the District to the same number of electoral votes as that of the least populous state in the election of the President and Vice President of the United States.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)But we must go after REPUBLICANS. THEY are the traitors !! Every last one of them..
WHERE is the DNC, or whomever runs things? There should be ads, interviews, videos. I don;t know EVERYTHING ... they need a PR person. I mean ANYBODY could run a media campaign against republicans and their traitorous behavior-- how about the head of SKIPPY PEANUT BUTTER advertising !!
And tell the dumb, sleeping public what is happening and why !!!!
LonePirate
(13,420 posts)He may not lick the results if he loses; but if he does, he loses all of his power and is evicted from the White House at 12:00 PM on January 20, 2021.
ooky
(8,922 posts)I expect him to slip out of the country, ahead of time, to avoid prosecution for his crimes.
lastlib
(23,226 posts)vlyons
(10,252 posts)There will be a Federal judge somewhere, maybe RBG or Merrick Garland or Elena Kagin, or someone, who will swear in the next duly elected President elect. First order of business, fire Barr and appoint an acting AG until confirmation process for the next cabinet.
Swearing in doesn't have to be a big inaugural production on the capitiol steps. I remember when Sarah Hughes swore in LBJ on a plane carrying JFK's coffin.
Midwestern Democrat
(806 posts)1/20/21 if he lost re-election next November.
herding cats
(19,564 posts)Let's be thinking adults here, m'kay?
Sewa
(1,255 posts)Stop youre scarring the children. Dont worry the aliens from another planet will save us.
sweetloukillbot
(11,023 posts)Where he gave permission to North Korea to nuke California so he could cancel the election...
Codeine
(25,586 posts)Not gonna happen.
solara
(3,836 posts)and I believe he can even be impeached after the election, no matter who wins, (which will be the Democrat of course)
Wouldn't that be funny? trump loses the election by massive popular and electoral votes and then gets impeached (again)
Skittles
(153,160 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)We have seen nothing yet to prove that is true. He is running roughshod over our nation's laws and traditions and I don't see it getting any better.
Celerity
(43,357 posts)Skittles
(153,160 posts)but in the end, America will prevail over Donald Fucking Trump
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I really do.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,611 posts)After the Electoral College has cast their ballots and Congress has certified the election, the Chief Justice will swear in the new president, regardless of what Trump says or does. What mechanism would he use to stop the inauguration?
NanceGreggs
(27,814 posts)... drew more attendees, and therefore his shit-show shouldn't be cancelled because it got higher ratings!
Arazi
(6,829 posts)If he won't vacate the White House, the duly sworn-in President will be ushered inside as the ex-president is physically removed as a trespasser
Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)Exactly what do you think will happen if he does that? Get real. You think that the nation and the world would just sit idly by and let that happen?
sarisataka
(18,654 posts)As Congress or SCOTUS had to 'redo' the 2016 election.
Kaleva
(36,299 posts)Ms. Toad
(34,070 posts)The Republicans were spewing about Obama. Spewing it here makes us look as foolish as they looked.
NanceGreggs
(27,814 posts)If he refused to vacate the WH on January 20, 2021, he'd be physically removed - kicking, screaming, possibly in handcuffs - or a straight-jacket, if necessary.
mokawanis
(4,440 posts)I don't know why people persist with this weird idea that he'll refuse to stop being President. He'll have NO CHOICE if he loses the election.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Have you observed his behavior over the past two years? He doesn't do anything he doesn't want to do.
stopdiggin
(11,306 posts)he loses the electoral vote and hes gone. further, I don't see that he has any allies in this (imaginary) coup. maybe Stephen Miller and Falwell Jr can hold a sad little parade somewhere? just so the rest of the country can laugh.
Kaleva
(36,299 posts)Everyone in the military has sworn to obey the lawful orders of the president and that would be the person Justice Roberts administered the oath of office to.
NCLefty
(3,678 posts)would be fine with giving up what America is for him.
andym
(5,443 posts)and then prevent the electoral college from meeting by force. GOP states might even go along with him. Could this happen? I hope not, but especially if he's facing indictments he may feel cornered and try. He's not one to be concerned about consequences and already has stated he could get away with murder.
stopdiggin
(11,306 posts)and all of these absurd schemes and scenarios just feed the lunatic fringe. let's be better than the Alex Jones crowd.
bearsfootball516
(6,377 posts)Retrograde
(10,136 posts)each states and DCs meet separately, making it hard to suppress their votes. And if the Republicans decide to sit it out - well, wouldnt that make for a bigger Democratic vote?
lanlady
(7,134 posts)and act ungraciously toward the incoming president (refuse to meet her or him at the White House, smear the walls with orange face paint) and spend the years to come denigrating Democratic presidents on Twitter and questioning their legitimacy. And the post-Trump media will dutifully report every bat-shit crazy thumb-fart. As long as he's alive, this country will be on edge.
bearsfootball516
(6,377 posts)To learn how to be president. If it ends up being Biden, he wouldn't need to. He learned more from being in the Obama White House than he'd ever learn from Trump.
elocs
(22,574 posts)It makes for a good movie or novel though and conspiracy buffs love that kind of stuff.
Vinca
(50,271 posts)malaise
(268,997 posts)he'll be moved out of the WH and suddenly croak - anything is better than prison
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)according to their state's election outcome, do they? Could trump corrupt them? Threaten them?
Staph
(6,251 posts)I'm counting on the Secret Service to ride to the rescue. Their loyalty is to the Office of the President, not to a specific person holding that office. If the election results say that Trump has lost the election and that the Democratic candidate has won, I can see the Secret Service calmly and efficiently escorting Trump et al. out of the building.
The men and women of the Secret Service see the occupants of the White House up close and personal, warts and all. I can not imagine that there are a lot of starry-eyed Trumpistas within the group.
maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)That's a line in the sand.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)That compact is called the Constitution. If he pulls a coup detat, then the compact is null and void and the states are free to leave.