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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBill Maher says Democrats lost the Senate because they voted against Kavanaugh
Joe Manchin voted for him and won and according to fuckface Democrat shaming Maher so would have Democrats in 5 other states including Missouri, Indiana, North Dakota, and I don't even know what the other two were because I wanted to break my television. The only question about Bill Maher from week to week in 2019 is which conservatives dick is he going to suck... this week its Andrew Sullivan by the way. Apparently it doesn't matter if you rape people if it was a long time ago because nobody gives a shit what anyone did when they were 17.
Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)I don't know why people even listen to him anymore, much less give anything he says credence.
brush
(53,764 posts)had the Senate before the Kavanaugh hearings so how did we lose the Senate voting against the sexual abuser?
So I guess he's saying Dems should've voted for Kavanaugh? Talk about nonsensical
Generic Brad
(14,274 posts)The right hates him. The left hates him. He still draws a crowd. He must be doing something right.
triron
(21,994 posts)Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)Maher's commentary is often just plain stupid, filled with false equivalencies, short sided thinking, and lazy, rich, white privileged, analysis.
When the only thing anybody can say in his defense is, "He's not politically correct," all that says to me is, "He also has few to no great ideas."
Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)dissatisfaction rate is a sign you're doing a great job. Call me when you have something interesting to say.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)standingtall
(2,785 posts)and Manchin would have won either way which makes his vote all the more cowardly.
Celerity
(43,286 posts)Quemado
(1,262 posts)Like one of the previous posters said, Maher has become a joke.
PSPS
(13,588 posts)With only 1/3 of the senate up for re-election last year and almost all of those seats in deep red states, it was mathematically impossible to flip it. It's only marginally better next year.
Crunchy Frog
(26,579 posts)onecaliberal
(32,816 posts)Azathoth
(4,607 posts)It not only fired up the white nationalist base, but it also freaked out a lot of people in the middle ground. The idea that a successful guy in his fifties was going to have his final career gig and accompanying pension suddenly snatched from him because of (let's face it, largely unverifiable) accusations from a high school classmate just didn't sit well with many people.
Dems, unfortunately, got the brunt of that resentment, because we got smeared as the ones "doing it" to Justice McDrinky. It was just bad luck for us.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)I'm not worried about Trump's base on matters of right vs wrong. Blasey Ford did the right thing, she went to her Senator and they tried to provide her an opportunity that Anita Hill was denied. Anita Hill was treated a lot worse.
I think people with similar experiences as Blasey Ford are able to understand how you can't prove something like that if it happens to you and if you go to the police there would be untested rape kits. Less than 1% of rapes result in felony conviction (his was an attempted rape).
I think what hurt was Avenatti inserting himself giving everyone an excuse to vote for Kavanaugh and dismiss the 2 credible claims.
Bettie
(16,086 posts)We are unlikely to get the Senate this time around either.
Cuthbert Allgood
(4,915 posts)JonLP24
(29,322 posts)Maher is a useful idiot for the right.
TheFarseer
(9,319 posts)You can certainly make the case that they would have voted R anyway. It's hard to say. I wonder If there were polls that asked what swung people's votes?
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)They even managed to win Arizona but 538 was predicting Republicans would retain control long before the election. The Democrats were going to lose the Senate in 2018 no matter what.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Like what? All those Americans who voted overwhelmingly for House Democrats split their vote for republicans in the senate?
Bullshit spin. But got people talking about him.
rufus dog
(8,419 posts)NCLefty
(3,678 posts)He's probably be bored with you if you agreed with everything he said. :p
He's sometimes right but I'm also tired of Sullivan. And when Coulter is on... fast-forward...
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)...they weren't going to win the senate regardless.
But I do think it played a role in growing the GOP majority.
Bredesen in Tennessee is an example of this. He came out for confirming Kavanaugh but lost the state in a landslide.
I posted about it at the time:
In a poll released on 9/15, Bredesen led Blackburn by five-points. Since the Kavanaugh hearings, however, Blackburn has led by +5, +8 and now +14 in the last three polls (the most recent showing him down 14). It's hard not to tie this to the Kavanaugh hearings and everything that came out of it. Unfortunately, while I think it'll hurt Republicans in moderate-to-left-leaning states, it absolutely is going to fuel voter support in right-wing states like Tennessee.
Bredesen had said he would've supported Kavanaugh had he been in the senate. Doesn't look like it'll matter - as Blackburn is likely to sail to the win now.
Bummer. I really thought Bredesen was going to pull this out. I cannot stand Blackburn.
I think it absolutely galvanized a good amount of GOPers in GOP-leaning states and helped do-in Heitkamp, Donnelly and McCaskill. And I don't necessarily think it was their votes - but the votes of the party as a whole.
Even still, Democrats' opposing it was the right move and I commend Heitkamp, Donnelly and McCaskill for risking their careers to vote against him.