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Swalwell: "Game, set,match." (Original Post) triron Sep 2019 OP
Good on Swalwell, always makes the salient point. Except when he was making a move on emmaverybo Sep 2019 #1
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2019 #2
the lack of action is becoming a sick, sad joke Skittles Sep 2019 #5
Why, Representative Swalwell-- you said the MAGIC WORDS! TygrBright Sep 2019 #3
My dear Bright... Hekate Sep 2019 #12
I am sorry, but this is not a Game. Congress needs to act now. vsrazdem Sep 2019 #4
This is fairly commonly used as a figure of speech- An idiomatic expression indicating finality. NBachers Sep 2019 #13
I know exactly how he meant it. I just don't find it appropriate in this situation. vsrazdem Sep 2019 #15
What if there are no tapes and it's he-said-he-said? NCLefty Sep 2019 #6
I've got to think the whistleblower knows the score and yonder Sep 2019 #10
then that's a violation of federal law in itself Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2019 #7
18 minute gaps in the tape. Marcuse Sep 2019 #8
K&R smirkymonkey Sep 2019 #9
Dems are partisan against Trump the way cops are biased against criminals. n/t Beartracks Sep 2019 #14
Rep. Eric Swalwell telling it like it is. oasis Sep 2019 #16
I'm sure he'll deny deny deny and a few days later the media will move on. MadDAsHell Sep 2019 #17
But the Democrats and the courts won't. Hortensis Sep 2019 #18
Don't forget the elephant in the room BumRushDaShow Sep 2019 #19
Oh, yes...! I was. Hortensis Sep 2019 #20
And isn't that part of his strategy? Fritz Walter Sep 2019 #23
The Representative doesn't need to convince his Twitter followers. LudwigPastorius Sep 2019 #21
Game. Set. Match. When does it end? Soon. How Soon? Soon. Be Patient. Stuart G Sep 2019 #22
Agree the whole Magilla bucolic_frolic Sep 2019 #26
there are no tapes. they're gagging the whistleblower because they can. maxsolomon Sep 2019 #24
--- or he'll release fake tapes... 3Hotdogs Sep 2019 #25
Lawrence Tribe said Desert grandma Sep 2019 #27
Why assume tapes exist? zentrum Sep 2019 #28
Someone has to pick up the ball before "Game, Set and Match" can even begin... Ferrets are Cool Sep 2019 #29
Kick Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2019 #30

Response to triron (Original post)

TygrBright

(20,756 posts)
3. Why, Representative Swalwell-- you said the MAGIC WORDS!
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 12:46 AM
Sep 2019

"If he's innocent, he'll release the tapes."

Shades of nineteen seventy-four.

And dear boy, you weren't even BORN then.

But those words are music to the ears of us ancients who remember Rose Mary Woods...

appreciatively,
Bright

NBachers

(17,098 posts)
13. This is fairly commonly used as a figure of speech- An idiomatic expression indicating finality.
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 03:01 AM
Sep 2019

Here's only one of many links that will explain it for you: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/game,_set,_match

yonder

(9,663 posts)
10. I've got to think the whistleblower knows the score and
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 02:16 AM
Sep 2019

made arrangements to back his report up.

Gosh, I hope so.

Response to triron (Original post)

 

MadDAsHell

(2,067 posts)
17. I'm sure he'll deny deny deny and a few days later the media will move on.
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 10:45 AM
Sep 2019

Frankly with the media's and American people's track record of being easily distracted, he'd be a fool not to.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
18. But the Democrats and the courts won't.
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 10:54 AM
Sep 2019

The case of The People v not just Trump but top Republicans and appointees grows.

It's possible that Trump's attempt to extort cooperation from Ukraine isn't even what the whistleblower filing is about. Does anyone believe all of Trump's and other Republicans' crimes and massive breaches of ethics are known?

I'd be interested in knowing just when our party leaders were first aware of this particular aspect of Trump-Ukraine. It's actually likely that some information leaked through friendly contacts in Ukraine, for instance, before this filing.

BumRushDaShow

(128,748 posts)
19. Don't forget the elephant in the room
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 01:04 PM
Sep 2019

or perhaps more accurately, the one sitting in a "prison room".

Paul Manafort!

(and also note that Manafort and Lewandowski were sworn enemies )

Fritz Walter

(4,291 posts)
23. And isn't that part of his strategy?
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 04:19 PM
Sep 2019

With a daily barrage of revelations about his gross incompetence, self-aggrandizement, and outright treason, are not the pussy ass bitch and his entourage counting on us plain folk losing track of one atrocity after another. And another. And another.

Until we become numb to it all. That might not have been part of the overall scheme of his idol, Adolf Hitler, but Herr Schicklgruber didn’t have Twitter and Faux Gnus available. The PABUS may be too senile or stupid to avoid treasonous or merely criminal actions, but at least he surrounds himself with enough sycophants in positions of power to shield him. At least temporarily.

We. Must. Get. Out. The. Vote.

LudwigPastorius

(9,128 posts)
21. The Representative doesn't need to convince his Twitter followers.
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 03:18 PM
Sep 2019

He needs to convince Nancy Pelosi and the rest of his colleagues in the House.

As Mr. Swalwell noted six weeks ago, the Mueller Report has already laid out everything necessary to introduce articles of impeachment against Trump.

bucolic_frolic

(43,123 posts)
26. Agree the whole Magilla
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 05:47 PM
Sep 2019

We have made miles of progress in a few days. This incident is tangible, understandable, with definite statutes that apply. It's not a judgment call, it's collusion/obstruction in plain sight, probably in addition to what attorney Jeremy Bash said yesterday - extortion, conspiracy - all rolled into one. Asking a foreign government to invesigate your opponent may be a bridge too far for even a few Republicans.

The whistleblower is a true patriot, some saying it's Dan Coates and his assistant. The Republican party may have discipline like no other, but they also are not a monolith, there are disagreements that fester and norms that harken back to their more patriotic past.

maxsolomon

(33,284 posts)
24. there are no tapes. they're gagging the whistleblower because they can.
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 05:12 PM
Sep 2019

without that testimony, it's he said/off the record said. concentrate on forcing disclosure - and judicial directives is what it will take.

we need that person to testify in congress.

3Hotdogs

(12,365 posts)
25. --- or he'll release fake tapes...
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 05:16 PM
Sep 2019

like if you could use Magic Marker on tapes.

But he has more resources to commit fraud than we do.

Desert grandma

(804 posts)
27. Lawrence Tribe said
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 05:59 PM
Sep 2019

the House should get a "Writ of Mandamus". It is "an order by a court to a lesser government official to perform an act required by law which he has refused or neglected to do." That should be served on the "acting" DNI making him turn over the report to Congress. I am not sure if this would work. If it had any chance, you would think the Intelligence Committee would have already tried this. Sorry I don't know how to link the comment, but it is on Twitter.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
28. Why assume tapes exist?
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 06:32 PM
Sep 2019

Some one like Barr would already have recommned they be deleted.

Is there some built-in technical protection against this?

Ferrets are Cool

(21,105 posts)
29. Someone has to pick up the ball before "Game, Set and Match" can even begin...
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 08:35 PM
Sep 2019

I see NO ONE picking up the ball on the criminal, this FUCKING CRIMINAL in OUR White House.

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