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In all the years since I started protesting the VN War in the 1960s, I never thought I would see the shit we are seeing today. Each day I feel as tho I am in a nightmare and will and should awake any moment ... and then I realize we are living in this motherfucking nightmare and there is no awakening from it until MF45 is removed from office.
tblue37
(65,217 posts)TruckFump
(5,812 posts)This last biz...the whistle blower report...has really gotten to me. I lived through the impeachment of Nixon, the BS VN War, the bombing of Iraq and had convinced myself I had seen the worse.
I never imagined what we are seeing today.
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KPN
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that, and crafted Articles of Impeachment. We have done none of that.
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KPN
(15,635 posts)malaise
(268,688 posts)Rec
Bayard
(22,005 posts)Stuart G
(38,410 posts)TruckFump
(5,812 posts)I hope you are right that this is the time that the entire evil empire will tip over.
Stuart G
(38,410 posts)I don't think that everyone ( as of today, Saturday) knows or realizes the essence of the crime. And that one will take some time...Nixon tried to erase the tapes, or did erase them. In the end..I think that did it.
Here, Trump contacts ...THE foreign adversary - Russia to get dirt on his opponent Joe Biden. But, I think it will take time for the realization to take hold. A little like the flu spreading. Little by little it spreads.
Eventually most get it.
not_the_one
(2,227 posts)headaches, COPD, IBS, DVT/PE, etc etc...
Sniffles? What sniffles?
Too bad he can't give us dementia or Alzheimer's, so we could forget him... (I am certainly not making light of any of these illnesses)
"Repulsive" has been hitting new lows. Yet he can, and does, go lower.
We have got to make Repulsive and Republican synonymous.
Here is hoping that this one finally does it....
pangaia
(24,324 posts)That's what everybody has thought every time something worse has happened in the last almost 3 years..
It didn;t happen then and it ain't going to happen now....
soldierant
(6,791 posts)or gets impeached and convicted, or resigns, or gets crushed in the 2020 election, or lives, or dies, or stays in the country or leaves it with or without his entire crime family (blood, marriage, and other).
His base will still be here. And they grow more guanopsychotic with every passing day.
And they vote, and they have guns. (yes, we vote too, and some of us have guns. But ...)
I don't want to be a total downer. Has anyone any constructive ideas o what to do with them?
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)IF it makes a big difference in public opinion (ahead of judicial decisions), it will be because it helps people on the LEFT who failed themselves and their nation in 2016 do better.
Some negligents will have woken up not to how bad they were but to at least something of the RW threat. We shouldn't expect new wisdom in those who betrayed by not voting Democrat, but it should help with others among them that Biden is a white man and not a woman. Fewer will enjoy being subverted by "dirt" slurs targeting their flaws and weaknesses.
In any case, in all of them fear is a great motivating factor. Just wish it manifested as more commitment in this trying period, instead of in whining and ankle-gnawing. I'd be glad trade the lot for some RW types who were straining to get at their enemies instead.
elocs
(22,541 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)No it won't. He will not leave...
Turin_C3PO
(13,906 posts)If the Democrat wins, then Trump must vacate the office by noon on Jan. 21st. If he refuses hell be dragged out of office. Not even the Supreme Court would allow him to stay in office one second longer.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Turin_C3PO
(13,906 posts)the Secret Service and US Marshalls are loyal to the constitution. If not, then, well... our Democracy would be officially dead.
homegirl
(1,427 posts)mindset BUT I believe Trump will sneak away to Russia in the middle of the night before the Inauguration. There is no extradition agreement between the USA and the Russian Federation.
Within a year Putin will have Trump eliminated.
Taraman
(373 posts)I really really don't care if the Senate looks the other way. Get these R senators on historical record.
SergeStorms
(19,182 posts)Thus far the Republican Senate has had it pretty easy. They lay back, let Trump do his worst, ignore the hue and cry and wait for the next turd sandwich to come out of the White House. Impeach Trump in the House, send it to the Senate, then make the lazy bastards record their votes on the Congressional record! Let their constituents see what gutless, lawless pieces of rat dung they are. No more free lunch for the gutless cowards in the GOP controlled Senate.
Siwsan
(26,248 posts)Bone chilling.
I_UndergroundPanther
(12,462 posts)We have a hostile coup going on by a bunch of people who are criminals narcissist athoritarian and sociopaths.
I really believe the republican party is for the rich criminals,the narcissists ,sociopath,psychopath,and authoritarian personalities themselves and thier followers.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)J. Edgar was never the President.
dalton99a
(81,391 posts)Stuart G
(38,410 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Soph0571
(9,685 posts)TruckFump
(5,812 posts)...and THAT is frightening!!!!!
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,241 posts)triron
(21,984 posts)TruckFump
(5,812 posts)BarbD
(1,192 posts)I share your history of protesting Vietnam. As bad as McCarthy yelling about commies everywhere and blacklisting those brave enough to stand up to him, watching my cousins PTSD from Vietnam, the WMD debacle, Big Pharma, the destruction of our planet -- all of these things don't compare to where we are in 2019. We cannot wait until an uncertain result in 2020.
Congress must act NOW. IMPEACH!
TruckFump
(5,812 posts)...then someone needs to find the balls or ovaries to leak the whistle blower complaint and let the shards fall where they may from whomever gets hit.
I lost my first love in VN. I will never forget what that war did to so many. War is not the answer...we learned that long ago. I protested the bombing of Iraq and look how many lives have been lost there. They are now sending young people who were born AFTER the bombing started.
Yup!
quarbis
(314 posts)I still dont believe the crap thats going in America today
When did we become a dictatorshipTrump is fucking unbelievable. I cant believe how low weve sunk.
TruckFump
(5,812 posts)Like I said above, I lost my first love...and other friends, too. And some came back as the walking wounded and will never be the same. A few took their own lives.
Thank you for your service. It is an honor, IMO, to be a Vet.
quarbis
(314 posts)Who wrote me every month but still protested. He got arrested in DC. He, like you, separated the Wat from the Warrior. I probably would have protested but I didnt get out until 1972. I enlisted for 4 years and ended up an intelligence unit. I am very proud I served but promised both daughters if they enlisted Id break their legs. 😇
TruckFump
(5,812 posts)My son is a Vet, but he served in peace time -- in the Navy -- in the 1990s. This was a good deal for him. He matured like I could not believe! But I do agree...in today's world, enlisting is NOT a good idea!
iamateacher
(1,089 posts)moondust
(19,958 posts)When I heard them claim a President cannot even be investigated I thought gee, Al Capone should have gone into politics where, according to Dump, everything is just politics as usual: "us vs. them." Then Mr. Capone, too, could have claimed that anything threatening to him is nothing more than his political opponents trying to bring him down.
And John Gotti. And Bernie Madoff. And a host of others.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,102 posts)trusty elf
(7,380 posts)TruckFump
(5,812 posts)Good one!