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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
1. Good for Frum: Trump wants "fabrication not investigation."
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 10:44 AM
Sep 2019

Absolutely.

It's like the media's permanent use of Russia/Trump's term "dirt" on Hillary Clinton. The dirt never existed, but the slur never dies.

tblue37

(65,336 posts)
2. Like LBJ's comment about smearing an opponent. He said he didn't care if it was not true
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 10:48 AM
Sep 2019

that his opponent f**ked pigs--he just wanted him to have to keep publicly denying that he f**ked pigs.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
3. LBJ is actually one of my "favorite" presidents.
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 11:00 AM
Sep 2019

At least to read from a comfortable distance in time about. He was an extremely...masterful politician and, at times, a great man.

The guns and the bombs, the rockets and the warships, are all symbols of human failure. Lyndon B. Johnson


Yup.

SayItLoud

(1,702 posts)
10. tRUMP wants us to look at the shiny object whilst
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 09:19 PM
Sep 2019

he distracts us from something MUCH more dangerous. Remember the Ukrainian conversation isn't the only thing referenced by the whistle blower according to reporting.

ffr

(22,669 posts)
5. The fabrication against Hillary shaved off enough voters, so he doubled down on Biden
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 12:16 PM
Sep 2019

Hey, if people are stupid enough to think that Hillary, who people adore, is unlikable, then hey, anything's possible.



SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
7. Cuomo let Giuliani repeatedly claim China gave Biden $250M, and made no pushback to that lie.
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 01:16 PM
Sep 2019

Indeed, Cuomo seemed to have no trouble with Giuliani asking for an "investigation," only with Trump asking for one.

It is so frustrating when these MAGAts come on CNN and spout lies and don't get called out for lying.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
11. I think Cuomo got exhausted
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 09:43 PM
Sep 2019

from trying to get a word in edge wise on Rudy, as he wouldn't shut up. He kept on ranting straight into spittle-hysteria.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
15. What really needs to be said is that this is banana republic level ratfuckery
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 09:47 AM
Sep 2019

Using your political office to attack your political opponents transcends mere political corruption and criminality. It’s a clear and present danger to our democracy.

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