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NewsCenter28

(1,835 posts)
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 05:15 PM Sep 2019

Just reading Twitter, it seems pretty clear that Speaker Pelosi will never countenance Impeachment

She has decided that since the GOP will never vote for it, it’s not in the party’s best interests to force her vulnerable swing district incumbents to take such a divisive vote. Impeachment is a pipe dream that the leadership will never support and we need to focus all our energy on the 2020 elections instead to depose 45.

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Just reading Twitter, it seems pretty clear that Speaker Pelosi will never countenance Impeachment (Original Post) NewsCenter28 Sep 2019 OP
I guess the Twitterverse would know ... StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #1
Her staff NewsCenter28 Sep 2019 #4
Can you show me that direct quote? SlogginThroughIt Sep 2019 #12
here melman Sep 2019 #25
Wait who is being quoted in that? SlogginThroughIt Sep 2019 #27
. melman Sep 2019 #28
Roll your eyes all you want. SlogginThroughIt Sep 2019 #29
+1 canetoad Sep 2019 #41
Yeah melman Sep 2019 #42
Pelosi: "Impeachment is never off the table." betsuni Sep 2019 #45
Typical circle game here. Someone claims something was said, it's been proven that it... George II Sep 2019 #48
"adviser"! George II Sep 2019 #47
"adviser"..... George II Sep 2019 #46
McConnell can't support it, he's guilty too bitterross Sep 2019 #13
Which will never happen without the Impeachment hearings and trial aeromanKC Sep 2019 #26
There's no reason to do the right thing and enforce our laws unless it wins the TeamPooka Sep 2019 #34
there's the nub of the matter Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #44
The Senate would block it anyways donkeypoofed Sep 2019 #2
Who fucking cares?? GOP didn't care when they impeached clinton Roland99 Sep 2019 #8
we already have evidence of his criminal behavior...it doesn't *matter* to Trump Chumps Baltimike Sep 2019 #15
So impeach his ass! Roland99 Sep 2019 #16
Give me a list of the witnesses for those hearings. Witnesses that are not trump supporters. wasupaloopa Sep 2019 #17
Why does it matter who they support? Roland99 Sep 2019 #19
people here were freaking out during Lewandowski JI7 Sep 2019 #30
The last hearing taught the public that trump's witnesses make us look like we are not cabable wasupaloopa Sep 2019 #35
That's all you got out of it? StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #36
Why don't you criticize me instead of being smug? The whole world knows we were bested. wasupaloopa Sep 2019 #38
We're going to focus on the election he's already begun trying to illegally rig. NightWatcher Sep 2019 #3
Can't write what I would like to write. nt Grasswire2 Sep 2019 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2019 #54
Fine by me BeyondGeography Sep 2019 #6
Its sound reasoning. Joe941 Sep 2019 #7
Okay. Someone help me understand this. Flaleftist Sep 2019 #9
Anyone? Flaleftist Sep 2019 #23
none of them ran on supporting impeachment JI7 Sep 2019 #31
silence is consent nt msongs Sep 2019 #10
She gets an A+ from me on procedure. pwb Sep 2019 #11
She should go back and read her oath of office CanonRay Sep 2019 #14
Kind of makes you wonder exactly why she's taking that stance. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2019 #18
How many are vulnerable? My congressman won 78% of the vote and is holding out. ecstatic Sep 2019 #20
That's unconscionable if truly he won by that margin. Anon-C Sep 2019 #52
here are all 42 House Democrats who won by 10% or less in 2018 Celerity Sep 2019 #60
Twitter? nini Sep 2019 #21
People are getting really fed up with Dems failure to do anything on this. OliverQ Sep 2019 #22
+1000. Read the letters on resistbot's page ecstatic Sep 2019 #24
Who's resistbot and why should I care what people are writing to him/her/it. StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #32
It's an easy way to write or call your representatives in Congress ecstatic Sep 2019 #50
This will hurt us dustyscamp Sep 2019 #33
Others think if we go with impeachment xmas74 Sep 2019 #39
Being more worried about pleasing trump's deplorable base ecstatic Sep 2019 #53
In the real world, I have yet to hear anyone talk about impeachment. Kaleva Sep 2019 #43
Hopefully we keep the House and get a new Speaker. Ace Rothstein Sep 2019 #37
That's up to Congress. They will elect who they know to be the best leader ehrnst Sep 2019 #55
We don't have the votes yet!!!!!!! secondwind Sep 2019 #40
Aside from all that, if they got rid of Trump, it could well get the GOP off the hook. Be careful OnDoutside Sep 2019 #49
Pelosi knows more than any of us. Let's trust her judgement.... Joe941 Sep 2019 #51
But, but that means you're blindly following a leader StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #56
"Just reading Twitter" TidalWave46 Sep 2019 #57
The problem with that is swing voters find weakness to be about as appealing as Trump Snake Plissken Sep 2019 #58
Saturday, we'd already had a sea change with the whistleblower action. Hortensis Sep 2019 #59

NewsCenter28

(1,835 posts)
4. Her staff
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 05:24 PM
Sep 2019

told a reporter on Twitter ‘no we will not support impeachment. See any GOP votes for it?’

She will not allow it unless McConnell decides to champion the cause.

 

SlogginThroughIt

(1,977 posts)
29. Roll your eyes all you want.
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 01:45 AM
Sep 2019

I do not ever remember her saying that she would not ever support it.

And that quote doesn't say that either.

George II

(67,782 posts)
48. Typical circle game here. Someone claims something was said, it's been proven that it...
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 09:11 AM
Sep 2019

...was NOT said, and ends with "whatever".

To me that's acceptance that you're correct. At least you got more out of it than most, good job.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
13. McConnell can't support it, he's guilty too
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 06:29 PM
Sep 2019

I don't see McConnell support ever. He's too compromised.

aeromanKC

(3,322 posts)
26. Which will never happen without the Impeachment hearings and trial
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 01:20 AM
Sep 2019

False argument.

Akin to McConnell not bringing up gun safety legislation because Trump will not sign it.
(seems McConnell hasn't read the Constitution)

TeamPooka

(24,221 posts)
34. There's no reason to do the right thing and enforce our laws unless it wins the
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 02:42 AM
Sep 2019

support of corrupt Republicans, right?

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,328 posts)
44. there's the nub of the matter
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 05:24 AM
Sep 2019

If we avoid doing the right thing because corrupt Republicans do not support it, we then limit ourselves to doing only corrupt things.

If we choose political expediency over doing what is right, then we are emulating Republicans and give credence to the "both sides do it" mantra.

We need to do what is right.

Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead.

donkeypoofed

(2,187 posts)
2. The Senate would block it anyways
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 05:17 PM
Sep 2019

But this Ukraine phone call thing might be the catalyst we've all been waiting for.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
8. Who fucking cares?? GOP didn't care when they impeached clinton
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 05:28 PM
Sep 2019

And the hearings would air massive amounts of evidence of his criminal behavior

Baltimike

(4,143 posts)
15. we already have evidence of his criminal behavior...it doesn't *matter* to Trump Chumps
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 07:40 PM
Sep 2019

facts don't *matter* to them...or they wouldn't support him..."beating the libs" does. Spite matters to them.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
19. Why does it matter who they support?
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 09:06 PM
Sep 2019

Get them under oath and televise the whole damn thing

Hillary withstood 11hrs under oath and televised. These sniveling quislings can, too

 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
35. The last hearing taught the public that trump's witnesses make us look like we are not cabable
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 02:50 AM
Sep 2019

of the task.

 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
38. Why don't you criticize me instead of being smug? The whole world knows we were bested.
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 03:06 AM
Sep 2019

Interesting that you can't see it or can't admit it!

The criticism is that the 5 minute rule was not in our favor. Lewendowski (sp?) filibustered the Dems for 5 minutes then a repub came up with their 5 minutes of bull shit.

Nothing got accomplished toward teaching the public about trump until the lawyer took over.

I will bet that if we get another witness to testify the 5 minute rule will not be in play. That's because we learned from our mistake!

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
3. We're going to focus on the election he's already begun trying to illegally rig.
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 05:19 PM
Sep 2019

I'm sure he won't be as successful stealing a second election.

Response to Grasswire2 (Reply #5)

Flaleftist

(3,473 posts)
9. Okay. Someone help me understand this.
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 05:33 PM
Sep 2019

I keep hearing about these vulnerable swing districts as the reason to not move forward on impeachment. Didn't they get elected in 2018 to be a check on Trump? Now they aren't going to do the job people came out and voted for them to do because it might cost them their seats?

It seems like being elected indicates they have the support to be that check on Trump.

CanonRay

(14,101 posts)
14. She should go back and read her oath of office
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 07:39 PM
Sep 2019

maybe that would change her mine. She's letting us and the nation down, IMHO.

ecstatic

(32,685 posts)
20. How many are vulnerable? My congressman won 78% of the vote and is holding out.
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 09:13 PM
Sep 2019

Clearly, a solidly blue district. I'm beyond furious and disgusted with him. I have to figure out how to write yet another respectful letter urging him to get on board.

Celerity

(43,328 posts)
60. here are all 42 House Democrats who won by 10% or less in 2018
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 09:23 AM
Sep 2019
All but SIX were flips from Rethug to us

all at 7.67% margin or less (except long time Rep. Collin Peterson who is a centre right Democrat in a ruby red district) were flips


the Rethugs had 48 House Reps. who won by 10% or less, many are retiring, most all are vulnerable

https://ballotpedia.org/Congressional_elections_decided_by_10_percent_or_less,_2018






























here is a link to see where all House members currently stand on impeachment

https://www.needtoimpeach.com/where-congress-stands/
 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
22. People are getting really fed up with Dems failure to do anything on this.
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 09:19 PM
Sep 2019

Twitter is exploding at Pelosi for refusing to support impeachment. My own family is ready to stop being a registered Democrat and switch to Independent.

All Pelosi is doing right now is making Dem voters who worked their butts off to put Dems in power in the House last year realize their efforts were meaningless and there is no point in voting in 2020.

ecstatic

(32,685 posts)
50. It's an easy way to write or call your representatives in Congress
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 10:31 AM
Sep 2019

After writing your letter, if you agree, it posts an image of the letter you wrote on their page. Most of the letters are awesome and eloquent.

You should care because it shows that you and Nancy's position on giving trump a pass is untenable and, if not reversed and soon, will backfire next fall. The base cannot and will not ignore that trump is committing crimes. That's called complicity.

Edited: to get started with RESISTBOT, text resist to 50409
Or, on Twitter, Send “resist” as a Direct Message to @resistbot to write your own.


xmas74

(29,674 posts)
39. Others think if we go with impeachment
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 03:21 AM
Sep 2019

It will rile up his base, allowing for reelection.

Impeachment is a tightrope right now. I understand the caution. I suspect the idea is to totally focus on 2020 and if he is reelected then go with impeachment. If he loses 2020 let NY state get their crack at him.

ecstatic

(32,685 posts)
53. Being more worried about pleasing trump's deplorable base
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 10:46 AM
Sep 2019

than the Democratic base is absolutely disgusting, especially since the truth is on our side!

Ace Rothstein

(3,160 posts)
37. Hopefully we keep the House and get a new Speaker.
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 02:57 AM
Sep 2019

Was hoping we'd have a new Speaker earlier this year. We need some younger blood with courage in the leadership roles. The old guard needs to retire.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
55. That's up to Congress. They will elect who they know to be the best leader
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 08:26 AM
Sep 2019

and that is often the one with the most experience.

To say Pelosi lacks courage is naive at best. Why do you think the GOP hates her so much.

She doesn't fear them or people thinking that she's "old."

OnDoutside

(19,953 posts)
49. Aside from all that, if they got rid of Trump, it could well get the GOP off the hook. Be careful
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 09:13 AM
Sep 2019

what you wish for. Republicans have been embittered since Nixon, the irony is they may be embittered by the NON-impeachment of Trump.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
56. But, but that means you're blindly following a leader
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 08:29 AM
Sep 2019

say the people telling us that it's so because the Twitter said it ...

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
58. The problem with that is swing voters find weakness to be about as appealing as Trump
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 08:55 AM
Sep 2019

It's "too politically inconvenient" to even try to save our nation ... won't make voters run to the polls to vote for you.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
59. Saturday, we'd already had a sea change with the whistleblower action.
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 09:09 AM
Sep 2019

So while the OP made a point about the 2020 elections, the OP itself was doomed to become a parody of its type from the beginning. "Twitter says..."!

Well, hopefully, no one still needs a coast-to-coast warning from the National Hurricane Center to notice something's happening. For now, some of what's happening,

1. Pelosi's called for a meeting of all related committee heads this morning.
2. At 4 o'clock she's called for a meeting of the entire house membership, but she spent the past few days calling them to sound them on support.
3. Many leadership aides now say Trump's impeachment is almost inevitable.
4. Adam Schiff, after discussion and agreement with Nancy, announced this weekend that impeachment may be inevitable.
5. Nancy's longtime close friend and ally, Rosa Delauro, has called for "decisive action," which she would never do if Nancy didn't want her to. she used the world investigation, though.
5. The 7 freshman Dems with backgrounds in national security who just spoke out are in RED AND PURPLE districts. They're among many in the caucus whom Nancy's been protecting from being hurt by the impeachment issue, but now they've put themselves out there.

Best to avoid over-reaction while we see how this plays out, though. Those already settled into surrender should probably just stay put for some while to avoid further emotional damage. The bumpy ride isn't over by any means.

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