Is Ukraine a presidential scandal or the roll out of their planned Biden smear?

[Imperialism Inc.]

I can't help but notice that the Trump admin almost seems like they wanted this whole thing to come out. They have people out everywhere actually pushing the story. Full lean in with smearing Biden and his son, with no reticence about what Giuliani did. Trump is saying Giuliani will testify to Congress even.

I know the guy that is withholding the whistle-blower complaint says he consulted with Barr about it. Are they confident they'll be able to keep it secret? Maybe have some assurances the Supreme Court will let them do so?

I'm freakin' confused. You know they have to have some big lie to run on; Obama is from Kenya, Hillary's emails. Is this just all the roll out of the 2020 lie?

[leftstreet]

1. I don't think Trump wanted this out before the Dem primary

Just my opinion

I think he assumed Biden would be the candidate, and he'd go after him during the campaign

[elleng]

2. Both

[4139]

3. Trump wanted it out and the whistleblower may not be a whistleblower

Trump wants to sink Biden during the primary. There have been reports that the whistleblower did not hear the phone call, if so trump skates again

[Imperialism Inc.]

4. Yeah, I've considered something like that.

That the whistleblower complaint turns out to be a bit of a nothing burger, but leaves egg on the face of the Democratic House for tring tso hard to see it and gives them the publicity for the launch of the conspiracy theory they'll ride into 2020.

[Wellstone ruled]

5. If one has been following along for the last

10 months,one would have seen this coming. About a year ago there was a little blurb on some news web page talking about how Biden was the Point man for several nations seeking the ouster of this corrupt Ukrainian Official. Irony being what it is,Biden's Kid just happened to be on the Board of Directors of a Gas Company with ties to the Ukraine.

Hints of this manufactured Scandal were dribble out by Right Wing Media knowing Biden would be the lead Candidate and with Cable News being what it is,perfect storm.

[blm]

9. True - RW media is even smearing Kerry and Chris Heinz by trying to make them

part of this Ukraine deal. Even a Kerryphile like me missed this hit attempt last month.


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/john-kerrys-son-cut-business-ties-with-hunter-biden-over-ukrainian-oil-deal

[Wellstone ruled]

10. Thanks for the link,

Phil Anshutz's Right wing POS. Believe that to be the source I mentioned,someone on this board posted a link.

When Ken Vogel popped up on MSNBC yesterday,and Friday,there was zero doubt as to the direction Andy Lack,and Phil Griffin of NBC were going.

So friggin obvious,along with Zucker at CNN you know the answer,Trump is good for our bottom line. Here we go again.

[malaise]

6. Both

and their hacks and goons are moving full speed ahead

[OnDoutside]

7. It would be a roll out if democrats don't hammer back hard.

[at140]

8. Yap, a backdoor attempt to force media to

look into Biden-Ukraine-China connection. It is going no where.

[LeftInTX]

11. Yes. Don't know if the scandal was intentional, but they've turned the tables

Now Lindsey Graham wants to investigate Biden. The conservative media is making it all about Biden.