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One possibility we should consider is that Trump is admitting the Ukrainian call (Original Post) pnwmom Sep 2019 OP
Trump is creating the Fog of Truth. Wellstone ruled Sep 2019 #1
yes, like they admiited to the Trump Tower meeting but kept saying that.. Grasswire2 Sep 2019 #2
Or, there just might have been 8 calls a-coming along, perhaps. empedocles Sep 2019 #3
Exactly. Rustynaerduwell Sep 2019 #4
He knows it's going to come out someway. brush Sep 2019 #5
I refuse to get my hopes up that way customerserviceguy Sep 2019 #6
His attorney appears to lack any strategy or powers of reason either. Ligyron Sep 2019 #18
Gholiani has gone full ape-shit bozo customerserviceguy Sep 2019 #19
It's dribbling out because he can't stop it. We still haven't heard what his promise was exactly. Karadeniz Sep 2019 #7
He knows there's a transcript Qutzupalotl Sep 2019 #8
I can entertain the idea the whistleblower had a list of grievances.... Brother Buzz Sep 2019 #9
When Trump is Involved, it's Almost a Given the Full Truth is Much Worse dlk Sep 2019 #10
he certainly knows how to turn the media into dogs chasing their tails EveHammond13 Sep 2019 #11
Very unlike Trump to do the actual dirty work bucolic_frolic Sep 2019 #12
Of course that is true. This is the Mussolini "plucking the chicken" strategy EndGOPPropaganda Sep 2019 #13
p.s. Rudy's appearance on TV was also part of the plan. They WANT to admit it EndGOPPropaganda Sep 2019 #14
Yes, I believe you are right.."the stuff in the whistleblowrl report is even worse" no text.. Stuart G Sep 2019 #15
Yes! agree that since Trump is admitting to this story... Viz Sep 2019 #16
And like everything else, he/they are also trying to normali KPN Sep 2019 #17
Yup GeorgeGist Sep 2019 #20
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
1. Trump is creating the Fog of Truth.
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 06:04 PM
Sep 2019

Or as we from the Farm would say,you throw enough shit against the wall,some is bound to stick.

Grasswire2

(13,565 posts)
2. yes, like they admiited to the Trump Tower meeting but kept saying that..
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 06:06 PM
Sep 2019

....the principles left the meeting because the Russians wanted to talk about adoptions and didn't bring any dirt.

Same playbook.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
6. I refuse to get my hopes up that way
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 07:22 PM
Sep 2019

Been there, done that, with the Mueller Report/testimony.

I refuse to believe that Trump is capable of playing out any strategy, that would assume that he possesses reasoning powers that no one has to date seen so far.

Ligyron

(7,622 posts)
18. His attorney appears to lack any strategy or powers of reason either.
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 09:05 PM
Sep 2019

Unless it is to drunkenly blather on national teevee using as many networks as possible that Trump has committed several felonies and admit to having participated as well. Evidence will be forthcoming and it will undoubtedly be worse than we have imagined. There will be stuff coming out no one has even thought of as yet.

These evil, power and money hungry criminals haven't gotten away, not by a long shot and there is a limit to what even their enablers in Congress and their dim witted constituents will ignore or tolerate.

The only question is how much damage will they do until they're brought to Justice and how long it will take to undo it.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
19. Gholiani has gone full ape-shit bozo
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 09:07 PM
Sep 2019

I'm rather surprised that the Trump administration still has ties with him.

Qutzupalotl

(14,296 posts)
8. He knows there's a transcript
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 07:34 PM
Sep 2019

and it’s likely to be released to Congress at some point.

It looks as though he’s trying to soften the blow because he knows the content will be damning. He’s doing what Barr did with the Mueller Report: gradually releasing/admitting to parts of the story so we don’t absorb it all at once, to keep us numb to it all.

Brother Buzz

(36,407 posts)
9. I can entertain the idea the whistleblower had a list of grievances....
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 07:35 PM
Sep 2019

and the Ukrainian mess is but one item on the list.

dlk

(11,537 posts)
10. When Trump is Involved, it's Almost a Given the Full Truth is Much Worse
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 08:07 PM
Sep 2019

Trump’s lifetime of criminal activity may finally be catching up with him. I wonder if he understood the level of public scrutiny that comes with the presidency. Or, more likely, he saw multiple dollar signs and thought the risks would be worth it. Regardless, it’s beginning to look like most of the Republican party belongs behind bars. The GOP has evolved into a well-organized crime family.

bucolic_frolic

(43,115 posts)
12. Very unlike Trump to do the actual dirty work
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 08:18 PM
Sep 2019

He let Michael Cohen handle Stormy Daniels, and I'd bet he let Rudy handle Ukrainian formulations

Viz

(56 posts)
16. Yes! agree that since Trump is admitting to this story...
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 08:51 PM
Sep 2019

There is another element of the story that is missing. Worse than
conspiring with a foreign government to bring scandal to a political foe, the full
story has even more far reaching implications that affects our national security.
What gives me hope is that we have 2 members of our government, the IG put into
place by Trump himself and the other -the whistleblower possibly a previous member of the Trump
Administration ( possibly Coates, or John Bolton) who are willing to bring this to light. They would
not have undertaken this course without having eyes wide open of what obstacles they would face, and
are willing to risk their futures by speaking up.

KPN

(15,641 posts)
17. And like everything else, he/they are also trying to normali
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 08:53 PM
Sep 2019

normalize it — with the help of M$M.

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