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leftstreet

(36,101 posts)
1. We have to march every time there's a corrupt Politician?
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 07:38 PM
Sep 2019

There are mechanisms for handling corruption and illegal activities

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,601 posts)
2. Trump isn't just a corrupt politician,
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 07:39 PM
Sep 2019

and so far the mechanisms for dealing with his illegal activities aren't working.

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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
16. How would impeachment have even been possible before Dems took the house?
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 08:19 AM
Sep 2019

That would have been as big a waste of time as Tea partiers marching in the streets demanding "repeal and replace the ACA" while Obama was still POTUS, and Dems had either the House or Senate...

I think the vast majority of people are more informed about workings of the various branches of government, and the balance of powers than you may think.

chowder66

(9,055 posts)
7. Well there was the march yesterday. It wasn't specific to impeachment
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 08:27 PM
Sep 2019

Mission Statement
We the People are marching to be seen and heard. We are marching to remind our elected officials that they work for us. We are marching because the current regime is a threat to our democracy and values. We are marching to demand accountability. Silence and inaction are complicity.





Cable news didn't cover it.

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Celerity

(43,115 posts)
12. I doubt they will. There are too many centrists stuck in artificially RW-made swing & red districts
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 09:08 PM
Sep 2019

who will simply not vote to impeach out of fear of losing their seats. The Rethugs have gamed the system. Pelosi sees the same thing, and doesn't want to lose the majority. She also simply doesn't have to power to compel the swing and red district centrists to vote for impeachment. The same thing will happen to things like the Public option, even if we win back the POTUS and Senate too. We are operating within a RW-gerrymandered, RW voter suppressed playing field and overall political structural ecosystem.

Time is also rapidly running out. There are less than 100 days left in the entire year. Any movement on the impeachment front, if taken in 2020 after the holidays recess, will be fought to a huge degree (and more vociferously the sooner the election nears) by charges from the Rethugs of election tampering by us Dems. Oh the irony!

To get Trump out we will have to vote him out. This failure to act will end up setting a horrid example I truly fear. It will come back to haunt the nation as it has set forth the example of political expediency holding the whip hand over the right thing to do when faced with a systemic traitor, a criminal, and a madman in our supreme seat of power.

If/when things go truly pear shaped down the spiralling road of future events, history will not treat these courses of inaction kindly at all.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
14. They won't. Not huge masses. It's not in our DNA.
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 10:12 PM
Sep 2019

The only 2 causes I can think of that brought out the real masses repeatedly over time was Civil Rights and Anti-Vietnam.

In both of those cases something material, not philosophical was at stake.

Civil Right, well the actual civil rights if a good portions of America.

Vietnam the risk that people’s Sons could be sent to die in a shitty war.


I see that generally as a good thing because we still trust our elections to straighten things out. If that stops then the situation may change. 2018 gave me hope and cautious optimism for 2020.

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