Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

RandySF

(58,655 posts)
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 11:37 PM Sep 2019

GOP allies warn vaping ban will sink Trump in 2020

Conservative leaders are circulating data to White House staff that claims adults who vape will turn on President Trump if he follows through with his planned ban on flavored e-cigarettes, Axios has learned.

Between the lines: The data (shown below) reveals that the number of adult vapers in key battleground states greatly outweighs the margins by which Trump won those states in 2016 — and they argue it could cost him reelection.

What we're hearing: "While parents may be concerned about e-cigarettes, the people who genuinely care about vaping as a voting issue so far outweighs the number of people Trump needs to win in 2020 that they are royally screwing themselves by doing this," Paul Blair, the director of strategic initiatives at Americans for Tax Reform, tells me.

Suburban moms concerned about vaping "don't have the same voter intensity on this as adult vapers do," an industry lobbyist said.
Florida, which Trump won by 113,000 voters, had about 873,000 adult vapers in 2016. They reason that if 1 in 8 vapers turn against Trump in 2020 because he foreclosed their vaping options, it could jeopardize the election.
Why it matters: If the FDA backs away from Trump's proposed enforcement policy, it would be the second time in recent weeks that political concerns prompted him to dial back government regulations.

Trump's openness this summer to expanded background checks cooled after the gun lobby and campaign advisers warned about bad internal polling.



https://www.axios.com/gop-allies-warn-vaping-ban-will-sink-trump-in-2020-16f766a4-7bcc-435f-9638-a80223df55ed.html

12 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,500 posts)
1. I don't think they have to worry. That brain dead moron already forgot he
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 11:39 PM
Sep 2019

said that. Or will just pretend he never did. Lie about it. Then just wait for people to forget he even said it.

NCLefty

(3,678 posts)
11. I agree he's unlikely to do this. He knows he already has a huge popularity problem.
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 03:07 AM
Sep 2019

I feel like that comment from him was a Trumpian distraction from whatever news story he was annoyed with.

GReedDiamond

(5,311 posts)
2. Yeah, because all the other fascist fucked-up shit he's doing...
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 11:39 PM
Sep 2019

...pales in comparison.

That said, anything that chips away at his support is a good thing.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
8. I was going to post something just like this
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 12:40 AM
Sep 2019

What? There are still people who are so ignorant that they think banning vaping is the worst thing he’s done?! Jesus!

struggle4progress

(118,268 posts)
6. CDC Confirms 8th Vaping-Related Death
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 11:58 PM
Sep 2019

Carlie Porterfield
Sep 20, 2019, 06:36am

... The most recent victim was a St. Louis, Missouri man in his mid-forties who began vaping in May to treat chronic pain, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Thursday. By August 22, he was hospitalized with respiratory problems and died less than a month later, on Wednesday ...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/carlieporterfield/2019/09/20/cdc-confirms-8th-vaping-related-death/#2932d9174c98

Gun Violence in 2018

eppur_se_muova

(36,256 posts)
7. I hope they tell him that on every issue.
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 12:23 AM
Sep 2019

He'll be so confused he'll twist like a weathervane and lose even more voters.

comradebillyboy

(10,134 posts)
9. As a former two pack a day smoker I can believe this. Anybody who got between me
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 12:42 AM
Sep 2019

and my nicotine was the enemy. I've been nicotine free for 31 years but it was the most wonderful drug in the world. But when I smoked getting my nicotine was a big priority. The vapers won't be happy to get cut off from the most wonderful drug in the world. I dreamed about smoking for ten years after I quit. That shit is really powerful.

If I knew I'd die tomorrow, I'd go to the 7-11 and buy a couple of packs right now. Right now my favorite drug is single malt Scotch.

Liberty Belle

(9,533 posts)
10. So being a racist, misogynistic, corrupt moron and traitor wasn't enough, but vaping is?
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 01:09 AM
Sep 2019

Apparently the tobacco industry thinks it has more influence than Putin. And for once I hope they are right, if that would mean the end of Trump.

stopdiggin

(11,285 posts)
12. does seem a little backward doesn't it?
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 03:34 AM
Sep 2019

apparently you can put your hands all over our girlfriends, wives and daughters -- but keep yer cotton pickin' fingers OFF my guns and vaping supplies!
(just so we know where our priorities lie)

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»GOP allies warn vaping ba...