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brooklynite

(94,352 posts)
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 07:17 AM Sep 2019

We are Trump's Republican challengers. Canceling GOP primaries is a critical mistake.

Washington Post

Mark Sanford was governor of South Carolina from 2003 to 2011. Joe Walsh represented Illinois’s 8th Congressional District in the House of Representatives from 2011 to 2013. Bill Weld was governor of Massachusetts from 1991 to 1997. All three are seeking the Republican presidential nomination.


The three of us are running for the Republican nomination for president in a race that will inevitably highlight differences among us on matters of policy, style and background. But we are brought together not by what divides us but by what unites us: a shared conviction that the United States needs a strong center-right party guided by basic values that are rooted in the best of the American spirit.

A president always defines his or her party, and today the Republican Party has taken a wrong turn, led by a serial self-promoter who has abandoned the bedrock principles of the GOP. In the Trump era, personal responsibility, fiscal sanity and rule of law have been overtaken by a preference for alienating our allies while embracing terrorists and dictators, attacking the free press and pitting everyday Americans against one another.

No surprise, then, that the latest disgrace, courtesy of Team Trump, is an effort to eliminate any threats to the president’s political power in 2020. Republicans have long held primaries and caucuses to bring out the best our party has to offer. Our political system assumes an incumbent president will make his case in front of voters to prove that he or she deserves to be nominated for a second term. But now, the Republican parties of four states — Arizona, Kansas, Nevada and South Carolina — have canceled their nominating contests. By this design, the incumbent will be crowned winner of these states’ primary delegates. There is little confusion about who has been pushing for this outcome.

What does this say about the Republican Party? If a party stands for nothing but reelection, it indeed stands for nothing. Our next nominee must compete in the marketplace of ideas, values and leadership. Each of us believes we can best lead the party. So does the incumbent. Let us each take our case to the public. The saying “may the best man win” is a quintessential value that the Republican Party must honor if we are to command the respect of the American people. Cowards run from fights. Warriors stand and fight for what they believe. The United States respects warriors. Only the weak fear competition.

Across the aisle, the Democratic primary challengers are still engaged in a heated competition of debates, caucuses and primaries to give their voters in every corner of our country a chance to select the best nominee. Do Republicans really want to be the party with a nominating process that more resembles Russia or China than our American tradition? Under this president, the meaning of truth has been challenged as never before. Under this president, the federal deficit has topped the $1 trillion mark. Do we as Republicans accept all this as inevitable? Are we to leave it to the Democrats to make the case for principles and values that, a few years ago, every Republican would have agreed formed the foundations of our party?
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We are Trump's Republican challengers. Canceling GOP primaries is a critical mistake. (Original Post) brooklynite Sep 2019 OP
The GOP hasn't realized that they are willfully giving up any moral higher ground. DetlefK Sep 2019 #1
They'll still project scandals onto Dems as if we're the sinful ones IronLionZion Sep 2019 #3
They've never had the moral higher ground... Saint PeLSU Sep 2019 #13
Call them conservanazis TxVietVet Sep 2019 #22
or just conservatives? Saint PeLSU Sep 2019 #26
Authoritarian regimes five concern themselves with morality zaj Sep 2019 #19
The moral high ground doesn't matter. Act_of_Reparation Sep 2019 #23
Jesus, they are actually making sense. CurtEastPoint Sep 2019 #2
Until you get to this part? mikeysnot Sep 2019 #4
YOu are right. I missed that. CurtEastPoint Sep 2019 #7
There's a lot more in there that is pure bullshit as well.... pangaia Sep 2019 #18
still Gaslighting Old Perverts Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #8
I suspect they are gambling that it will help them down the road either in 2024 or 2028 by cstanleytech Sep 2019 #5
Republicans have cheated,lied True Blue American Sep 2019 #6
Not this part-- "guided by basic values that are rooted in the best of the American spirit." pangaia Sep 2019 #14
The best their party has to offer Kaiserguy Sep 2019 #9
"may the best MAN win" jayschool2013 Sep 2019 #10
Ok which is it GOP? States rights? No state rights? Or is it only what benefits the GOP's interests? usaf-vet Sep 2019 #11
Obviously whatever they say is right Saint PeLSU Sep 2019 #15
Weld says treason and death. I could get behind that. gibraltar72 Sep 2019 #12
Cancelling primaries is what fascists do-wake up! dlk Sep 2019 #16
"..., fiscal sanity and rule of law..." pangaia Sep 2019 #17
Thoughts and prayers, GOP. Thoughts and prayers... AZ8theist Sep 2019 #20
Joe Walsh was among the most vile Tea-haters Martin Eden Sep 2019 #21
On basic principle the article is correct. defacto7 Sep 2019 #24
Yes it is... dajoki Sep 2019 #25

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
1. The GOP hasn't realized that they are willfully giving up any moral higher ground.
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 07:28 AM
Sep 2019

Sex-scandals.
Financial scandals.
Arguing for an imperial presidency.
Sabotaging investigations.
Running roughshod over traditions and precedents.
Ridiculously blatant lies, told without embarrasment.
Self-dealing, abuse of power, corruption.

The GOP hasn't realized that WHATEVER scandal ANY future US politician will get caught in, from now on the conversation will always circle back to one question:

"Is it worse than what Trump did?"

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
3. They'll still project scandals onto Dems as if we're the sinful ones
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 07:49 AM
Sep 2019

They found it very scandalous that Obama wore a tan suit and ordered mustard on his burger, since he didn't have any sex scandals or financial scandals.

 

Saint PeLSU

(24 posts)
13. They've never had the moral higher ground...
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 09:22 AM
Sep 2019

Words matter... Stop calling them the 'right'. Right is always right. This is the same as calling them pro-life. The opposite of that is anti-life.

mikeysnot

(4,756 posts)
4. Until you get to this part?
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 08:14 AM
Sep 2019
Are we to leave it to the Democrats to make the case for principles and values that, a few years ago, every Republican would have agreed formed the foundations of our party?


a few years ago... Eisenhower was not a few years ago....

cstanleytech

(26,236 posts)
5. I suspect they are gambling that it will help them down the road either in 2024 or 2028 by
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 08:15 AM
Sep 2019

positioning themselves as a moderate.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
14. Not this part-- "guided by basic values that are rooted in the best of the American spirit."
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 09:23 AM
Sep 2019

And of course this--

"The saying “may the best man win” is a quintessential value that the Republican Party"
Well, they sure DID get this right

Kaiserguy

(740 posts)
9. The best their party has to offer
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 08:53 AM
Sep 2019

From what I see the best they have to offer has been going down hill for a long time. They don't have anything left but a pack of lies to offer America.

jayschool2013

(2,311 posts)
10. "may the best MAN win"
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 09:17 AM
Sep 2019

Republicans occasionally may sound cogent, but they always reveal their true regressive ways eventually.

usaf-vet

(6,162 posts)
11. Ok which is it GOP? States rights? No state rights? Or is it only what benefits the GOP's interests?
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 09:18 AM
Sep 2019

When it to your advantage you allow states to establish rules that cancel primaries. Arizona, Kansas, Nevada and South Carolina.

When it isn't to your advantage you deny states the right to establish election-related rules that they see as necessary to inform the electorate.

California and other states are establishing rules that say to get on the primary ballot in their state you have to provide your tax returns. This ensures that voters can see where a political candidate's financial interest might conflict with their policy-making decisions.

In this case, you have denied California's choice to fully inform their voters about where a candidate allegiance may affect their decision making. Is it in the best interest of all Americans? Or solely in the best interest of the candidate?

Other national issues that you've selectively decide for or against state rights. Gun laws, abortion rights, environmental policies, and Land use policies to name a few.



pangaia

(24,324 posts)
17. "..., fiscal sanity and rule of law..."
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 09:28 AM
Sep 2019

Name ONE of your last 5 presidents who has followed these 'bedrock principles !! Name ONE !!!!!

Martin Eden

(12,845 posts)
21. Joe Walsh was among the most vile Tea-haters
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 09:59 AM
Sep 2019

He's changing his tune only because he sees an opportunity to revive his political career.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
24. On basic principle the article is correct.
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 10:04 AM
Sep 2019

But I would rather tRump not have any GOP competition. They would take votes away from those rw voters who are disillusioned with him and would vote dem to get rid of him. As it sits we are going to slime tRunp out of existance. Let them cancel their primaries.

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