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Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 07:46 AM Sep 2019

Ukraine Officials Were 'Blindsided' When U.S. Military Aid Was Withheld After Trump Call: Report

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ukraine-officials-were-blindsided-when-us-military-aid-was-withheld-after-trump-call-report?via=twitter_page

Barbie Latza Nadeau Correspondent-At-Large Published 09.23.19 7:09AM ET

Senior Ukrainian officials say they were blindsided when the U.S. failed to release military aid after a July 25 phone call between Donald Trump and Ukrainian President Voldymyr Zelenskyy in which the two leaders discussed investigating former Vice President Joe Biden’s son, The New York Times reports. Speculation is growing over whether President Trump manipulated foreign policy for his own political gain by withholding security assistance to Ukraine, which has been fighting off Russian separatists, to attempt to tarnish a family member of his potential 2020 rival. The Times quotes senior Ukrainian officials who say they were dumbfounded when the U.S. failed to release routine military aid after a July 25 phone call between Trump and Zelenskyy in which the two leaders discussed investigating Hunter Biden. Hunter Biden had business dealings in Ukraine while his father, then the vice president, was tapped to oversee American policy toward Ukraine. “It was a total surprise,” Pavlo Klimkin, Ukraine’s foreign minister at the time, told the Times when he learned that the aid was blocked with no explanation.

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Ukraine Officials Were 'Blindsided' When U.S. Military Aid Was Withheld After Trump Call: Report (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Sep 2019 OP
Why are our Democratic leaders not in front of EVERY camera SCREAMING about this? Moostache Sep 2019 #1
Ukraine Officials might have been Blindsided, but nobody in the United States is remotely surprise Snake Plissken Sep 2019 #2

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
1. Why are our Democratic leaders not in front of EVERY camera SCREAMING about this?
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 10:34 AM
Sep 2019

The transcripts and the whistleblower report must be released IMMEDIATELY - there should not even be a single meeting or event until this issue is resolved. SHUT IT ALL DOWN. No more calm calculations. No more polite subpoenas. No more hearings run off the rails by recalcitrant assholes covering for Trump on his orders. No more delays. No more patience. ACT. NOW...or simply resign as the cowards they are. It is time to start recruiting more primary challengers ASAP if this course of action is not swiftly reversed.

WE are operating in a sham government at the moment. The rule of law has been usurped at the highest level and the rules no longer seem to be enforceable because our side is too goddamn worried about 'optics' and '2020 impact' and 'getting Trump re-elected'. The Russia thing was bad, the cover-up was worse, the false information about Mueller's report was insanity and now THIS?

What the holy fuck are we waiting for, ACTUAL GULAGS in the Alaskan bush country?

We get the government that we the people deserve. Apparently, Americans are just as dumb and vile on the aggregate as I feared.

Rampant criminality and brazen taking of non-existent privilege on one side and empty, passionless navel gazing and non-action on the other. Fuck this whole shithole country already - those who support this mess first and everyone else so obsessed with optics next.

AOC is right...the REAL scandal here and now is emanating from OUR SIDE now...

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
2. Ukraine Officials might have been Blindsided, but nobody in the United States is remotely surprise
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 10:37 AM
Sep 2019

It's just Trump being Trump, his criminality, treason, and corruption are all part of his charm that we must learn to live with because it's too inconvenient for any elected officials to do anything about it.

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